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|    Joseph C. Fineman to blaikie.brett@gmail.com    |
|    Re: You can Call Me Al, What does it mea    |
|    09 Aug 17 17:23:35    |
      From: joe_f@verizon.net              blaikie.brett@gmail.com writes:              > On Wednesday, June 25, 1997 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, Jim Edelman wrote:       >> I was listening to some of my albums a while ago, and I came across a       >> line in the song "Brother can you spare a dime." The line is:       >>       >> "Say don't you remember? They called me Al. It was Al all the time.       >> Say don't you remember? I'm your pal. Brother can you spare a dime?       >>       >> Now this sounds a little too similar to Paul Simon's "You can call me       >> Al" to be a coincidence. Just from the context it seems to me that it       >> must be a term of respect of some sort. Does anyone know the       >> historical significance of this phrase?       >>       >> It’s something that has been bothering me for a long time.       >>       >>       >> Jim Edelman       >       > It may be a reference to the Roaring Twenties and the reign of Al       > Capone selling illegal booze and corrupting public officials. In these       > years the stock market crashed to half its previous value and so did       > US GDP because of dust bowl conditions on the Prairies that destroyed       > farms. Unemployment was the norm, teachers were being paid less than       > half their wages, children were skipping meals and staying in bed to       > conserve energy. Prohibition created a disregard for the law among       > large swathes of the population and a problem for cities because       > illegal businesses tend not to pay taxes. And they tend to corrupt       > both the banking and political systems to suit their purposes (ie       > laundering money, ensuring the police "fight crime" somewhere else)       > The president of the day, Hoover, was partly responsible, out of touch       > with the desperate plight of the average citizen. Anyway, it's a great       > tune, same writer wrote the lyrics for "over the rainbow"              In both songs, it seems to me, "call me Al" means call me by my familiar       nickname -- in Harburg's song, in reminiscence; in Simon's, as an       invitation. I doubt if there is any actual allusion by the latter to       the former. The situation in "Brother, Can You Spare a Dime" is a       shameful one: Once you are poor, your old buddies don't want to       recognize you, because they're afraid you'll ask them for money. It is       well documented in literature; cf. "Nobody Knows You When You're Down       and Out".       --       --- Joe Fineman joe_f@verizon.net              ||: Having fun -- not a rule, more like a guideline. :||              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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