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   From: rabrabbjb@yahoo.com   
      
   On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:20:19 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel   
    wrote:   
      
   >In rec.arts.tv on Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:10:10 -0500 in Msg.#   
   >, Barbara Bailey   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:23:37 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>   
      
   >> >>   
   >> >> Summer 1976: Used by ABC Sports to accompany the replay footage of   
   >> >> Nadia's perfect 10 on the horizontal bars; identified on air as "The   
   >> >> Theme from The Young and The Restless"; becomes identified as "Nadia's   
   >> >> Theme" by non-Y&R viewers.  Barry Devorzon says that the actual music   
   >> >> played was in fact "Cotton's Dream," from the _Bless the Beasts and   
   >> >> Children_ soundtrack; other sources say that it was the Y&R theme that   
   >> >> was used.   
   >> >   
   >> >So, the question is germane: who gave ABC permission to use what?   
   >>   
   >> That leads to a secondary question: did ABC even ask permission?   
   >   
   >Surely they would have if for no other reason to negotiate a fee.   
      
   Using music from a previously released record would require the   
   payment of royalties, but not necessarily prior permission. I'm   
   certain that ABC Sports would have already had an agreement in place   
   with ASCAP and BMI, which are the organizations that handle collecting   
   royalties for broadcast use of recorded music. They did use music   
   quite effectively in both the recap coverage of the actual events and   
   in the "Up-Close & Personal" segments, as well as in other ABC Sports   
   presentations throughout the year.   
   >   
   >> Y&R was (and is) a CBS show, the _Bless the Beasts and Children_   
   >> soundtrack was released on A&M, and the single of Nadia's Theme (The   
   >> Young and The Restless) was also released by A&M.  At the time, A&M   
   >> was not owned by any other company.   
   >>   
   >> Logistically speaking, I believe that it would be substantially easier   
   >> for ABC Sports to get quick permission from A&M than from CBS.   
   >   
   >Well, for that matter, CBS doesn't own Y&R so that could potentially add in   
   >one more party. At that time that party would have been the Bell family   
   >corporation. (Now Y&R is owned by the Bell family corporation and Sony.)   
      
   Yeah, it would have been sticky using the Y&R theme any way it was   
   done.   
   >   
   >> >[snipped]   
   >> >   
   >> >> The big questions are: How different is "Cotton's Dream" from "The   
   >> >> Young and The Restless"?  Which one was used with the footage of   
   >> >> Nadia? Which one was released as "Nadia's Theme (The Young and The   
   >> >> Restless)"?  I can find the opening theme from Y&R online, but I can't   
   >> >> find either the original ABC Olympic footage or the _Bless the Beasts   
   >> >> and Children_ soundtrack album to compare it with.   
   >>   
   >> In a bit more digging, I did find several videos of the perfect 10   
   >> bars routine on youtube, one with what is clearly the Y&R opening   
   >> theme, and one with the same melody in a very slightly different   
   >> arrangement, less lush and with the opening bars played by a single   
   >> piano rather than the string section of the Y&R arrangement.  But both   
   >> of these are videos that were made by individuals, since neither is   
   >> the slow-motion replay that the music was first used under (the double   
   >> horizontal bars is not performed to music in the Olympics.)   
   >   
   >This is interesting.    
      
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