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   From: kbjarnason@gmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:11:30 -0500, John Baker wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 14:29:36 -0800, Kelsey Bjarnason   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 03:33:18 -0800, mansue.com wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> I just put my "martianpeople.com" magazine back online   
   >>   
   >>I just browsed to it.  I got a popup, whose very first item was "MSIE   
   >>Optimized".   
   >>   
   >>That, in itself, is sufficient to determine the site's producers to be   
   >>complete and utter quacks, totally devoid of any contact with reality.   
   >   
   >   
   > How so? You and I may think IE is a clunky, outdated piece of crap, but   
   > two out of three people still use it as their default browser.   
      
   There are basically three ways to design a web site.  One is to use all   
   the sexy new _standard_ stuff that every modern browser is expected to   
   support, but which IE inevitably will fuck up.  The second is to limit   
   your usage to those things one can actually expect even a moderately   
   recent browser to get right - so tables for layout rather than CSS for   
   layout, just as an example.  Or you can tweak, twiddle, fiddle, fart and   
   faff around trying to "optimize" your site for the most insecure,   
   crippled POS browser in existence.   
      
   Of those, the first gives users a push in the right direction, especially   
   if backed by a little message to the effect of "since MS can't produce a   
   usable web browser, have you tried Firefox, Chrome or Opera?", the second   
   maxes out your utility while still allowing the terminally brain-dead to   
   persist in using a terminally brain-dead browser, and the third is unique   
   in actually prolonging the life of said brain-dead abomination.   
      
   We do not need the third option.  We need to *kill* the third option, as   
   a step towards killing the abortion of a browser it promotes.   
      
   Now, if MS ever got off its furry little backside and at least *read* a   
   standard - and some security guidelines - now and then, this might be   
   worthy of reconsideration. :)   
      
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