From: wolverine01@charter.net
On 11/24/2024 2:24 PM, sticks wrote:
> I'll look next into an amazing solution to a problem in our eyes. If
> you think this one is the result of evolution, I'd love to hear how.
So, I've given a few examples and a taste of why I believe the original
cell gives the naturalist fits in explaining how it is possible to have
come about without intervention. For now, let's just do what Darwin did
and ignore the origin of life and move into an actual living thing.
We'll also have to then put aside the fact that every amazing thing in
biology is made of cells, from plant life to animal life, and that every
system involved in actually being alive has to deal with the complexity
of the cell and how it could possibly have come about and now has the
DNA to know what to build. Just put that on the back burner.
To be honest, I find the entire human body to be an irreducibly complex
system, and science for the most part agrees. We have 11 separate
systems in the human body that allow us to function and keep us alive.
Some people claim there are 12 by having one for the male reproductive
system, and one for the female reproductive system. I'll just call it
the human reproductive system and say there is 11. I won't get into it
here, but I have given some thought as to how "nature" came up with a
reproductive system for a male specimen and a different system for a
female specimen. How did the slow process of evolution figure this one
out? But anyways, here are the 11 systems:
1. The circulatory (cardiovascular) system
2. The lymphatic system
3. The respiratory system
4. The integumentary (skin and its structures) system
5. The endocrine (metabolism regulation) system
6. The gastrointestinal (digestive) system
7. The urinary (excretory) system
8. The musculoskeletal system
9. The nervous system
10. The reproductive system
11. The immune system
When any one of these systems ceases to function, you die. They also
have the same nagging chicken-or-egg problems which becomes clearer
every day as science uncovers more of the true nature and complexity of
each of the 11 systems and how they coordinate and function as a whole.
I could give an example of a show stopper in any one of these 11
systems, but I want to give just one from the nervous system for you to
consider, and it's part of the human eye.
The human eye even gave Darwin problems and he once confessed that it
was "absurd" to propose that the human eye evolved through spontaneous
mutation and natural selection. Much debate has occurred over the years
centering on the origin of our eye. There are many things I could cite
that I believe show a design element involved, but I want to give just
one for now that I see as a naturalist show stopper. The superior
oblique and the trochlea.
Image of the superior oblique.
The eye has a set of 6 tendons and muscles that control it's movement.
One of these, the superior oblique, is extremely special. The
engineering problem with affixing these muscles to the eye is that there
was no good place to put the one controlling the movement necessary with
a muscle of similar size to maintain similar push and pull energy
because of the shape of the skull and the position of our eyes.
To solve this problem and get the desired motion, our eye sockets
contain something called the trochlea. In Latin this means pulley, and
that is exactly how it is used. The superior oblique threads it's
lengthy muscle through the bony trochlea and then down to attach itself
to the eye in a position that allows the lateral movement and does not
affect vision or stability of the eye. It's a remarkable engineering
solution in my view, and one that deserves consideration of how it came
to be. It actually acts like a farmer pulling hay up in the barn with a
pulley system, and that requires intelligence and thought.
How the superior oblique knows to thread itself through the sling is one
thing, how a perfect solution for eye movement like this could have come
about through the slow and chance process of evolution is another. When
this lateral rotation of the eye was deemed necessary by "mother
nature," why didn't it go directly from a place in the eye socket and
attach itself to the eye? What mechanism does evolution have that would
allow for a part of the body like the eye to assess the problem, use a
tool like a pulley, and then actually grow one? We haven't even touched
on the irreducible complexity of the necessity for blood supply, the
information the eye processes and its connection to the brain, and the
fact that the ear amazingly is also a part of our vision, among many
other things. There are no intermediary specimens of this in nature in
any species. You either have it, or you don't.
The existence of the trochlea and its superior oblique muscle simply
cannot be explained in my view through evolutionary processes, and is
one of those “show stoppers” with irreducible complexity and “no
intermediate steps in evolutionary terms” as explained by the Centre for
Intelligent Design in this linked article. It is short read of only
about one page and very well written.
I have really only touched the surface on this wonderful engineered
solution to our sight, but if anyone thinks evolution could do this on
its own, I'd love to have it explained to me just how. If anything, I
would at least expect acknowledgement that it poses some serious
question regarding the possibility of evolution!
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