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   sticks to Mike Van Pelt   
   Re: Would love to talk to Joe about this   
   13 Jan 25 07:42:22   
   
   From: wolverine01@charter.net   
      
   On 1/12/2025 11:16 PM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:   
   > In article ,   
   > sticks   wrote:   
   >> So the answer for the creationist on where God came from   
   >> is that while I can't answer that now, no one can, I have   
   >> faith that I will someday know the answer to the question.   
   >   
   > "Came from" implies that God is part of time, but if time   
   > is part of God's creation, talk about "where God came from"   
   > is arguing from a false premise.  Eternal means "outside   
   > of time entirely."   
   >   
   > At some point, we have to just accept that we aren't going   
   > to fully understand God.  Any god we could figure out would   
   > not be **GOD**, it would be an idol of our own creation.   
   >   
   > Any actual understanding would have to some from the other   
   > direction, God revealing Himself to us.   
      
   Yes, I agree.   
   BTW, when I said "I will someday know" I was meaning after I die.  Then,   
   I'm doubtful it is even a question.  I believe the truth kind of takes   
   over and both sides know God is real.  Some just get to be near, others   
   spent eternity separated from him.  That separation would truly be hell.   
      
   If you want to go further down the rabbit hole, Thomas Aquinas got   
   everyone thinking when he stated, "God's essence is his existence."   
   This is where most people come to understand what is meant by the one   
   uncaused reality.   
      
      
      
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   I Stand With Israel!   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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