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   Message 163,589 of 163,830   
   Carol to Ted Heise   
   Re: Charging from tow vehicle   
   06 Mar 25 00:59:25   
   
   From: cshenk@virginia-beach.com   
      
   Ted Heise wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 00:37:03 -0000 (UTC),   
   >   Carol  wrote:   
   > >  Ted Heise wrote:   
   >   
   > > > I'm now wondering if my best bet may just be to minimize use   
   > > > of the battery so it might last a couple of days.  The fridge   
   > > > seems likely to the biggest draw, and is probably why the   
   > > > batterys has lost a significant portion of its capacity after   
   > > > a day of towing.  Would it be unacceptably dangerous to run   
   > > > the fridge from the propane tank while towing?   
   >   
   > Any thoughts about running the fridge on propane while towing?   
      
   Not from my side, not familiar with it at all.   
      
   > >  i'd gather data for a bit.  There are several approaches to   
   > >  this.  What you want, is good batteries that don't 'leak all   
   > >  the juice out' (lose charge at unacceptable rate when parked   
   > >  for a bit, not being used). That means the Ecoflow River 2   
   > >  isn't a wise choice in a long RV trip. The Jackery (hasn't had   
   > >  the same test applies yet, patience dear one!) is a much better   
   > >  bet.  I know it was parked for 3 months once and lost only   
   > >  about 5% charge.  That wouldn't be noticable.   
   > >   
   > >  The ecoflow river (ECR2 for short) isn't a bad battery at all,   
   > >  it's just not right for this application.  It fits my needs   
   > >  though with one running DVD/TV (perhaps laptop?) and other used   
   > >  most of the time in the shed so Don can play with building   
   > >  fishing lures and small wood working projects.  If he has to   
   > >  stop to recharge it, thats simple.  We can even bring in a   
   > >  spare portable AC with an electrical cord from the back porch.   
   > >  (estimate ECR2 would last 3-4 hours on it's own with an LED   
   > >  light).   
   > >   
   > >  You'd need more power and a longer holding time.  More in line   
   > >  with the Jackery.   
   >   
   > So if I'm reading this right, the concept would be to use some   
   > kind of portable power station as something like a backup for the   
   > trailer's installed battery?  Seems it would be handy, and might   
   > be simplest to set up with solar panels.   
      
   If you have some small stuff yes but you can't fully have real power   
   just off the car's battery unless it's running.  It boils down to the   
   capacity of the battery *ECR2* are small. 256W I believe.  And the   
   ability to recharge it.   
      
   The cheaper the battery, the smaller the capacity.  The cheaper the   
   solar panel is, the less solar energy it can pull.   
      
   I think the essential issue might be 'how much can be run at once with   
   a Go Power setup for 600$'.  Can you run a cube mini-fridge and how   
   many hours off the input of just the solar panels under *average   
   condition* (**NOT IDEAL CONDITIONS**).  Watch for that specifically as   
   normally you get only _ideal conditions_.   
      
   Case in point why 'ideal' is critical.  My local NextDoor site is alive   
   with screaming people about the elecric bill in January.  What was   
   backing it?  Coldest January month on record ever.  We all know that   
   climate varies from year to year, well, this one was colder and only   
   once before did we get more snow.  That was in 1910 I think, and it was   
   13inches.  This time it was 12.5.  We had 10 days of heavy clouds with   
   most days getting freezing rain, then we got 12.5 inches snow.  It took   
   5 days to hit enough meltoff to see roofs.   
      
   Chuckle, some not very well lit bulbs out there thought you could cover   
   solar panels with a foot of snow and they'd still be working.  They   
   also didn't add up heavy clouds act like a blanket between the sun and   
   the panels.  So, yes I and others got a bill.  It was reduced by the   
   days we got enough light to cover some of it.  Jan 2023/Jan 2024 pulled   
   600 kWh/597 kWh respectively.  Jan 2025 was 463 kWh. 15 days of the   
   month (not normal) got little to no solar energy.   
      
   I didn't get my panties in a knot over it.  Paid my bill of 150$   
   (highest before then was 51$) and moved on.  What I'm saying expect   
   some days to not get any useful solar input.  Have a plan.   
      
   Ted, you show good sense.  Have backups for the crititcal things in   
   case the main system goes out or otherwise can't provide.   
      
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