From: wolverine01@charter.net   
      
   On 6/24/2025 4:13 PM, Ted Heise wrote:   
   > On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:44:35 -0500,   
   >    sticks  wrote:   
      
   >>> There has been a place or two (inluding the site with the   
   >>> problematic power) where the plug in panel didn't have a   
   >>> cover. Strikes me as suboptimal if it rains.   
   >>   
   >>   Also it's probably illegal almost everywhere.  That's it can   
   >>   kill you power.   
   >   
   > Oh, I didn't describe it very well.  I was talking about the metal   
   > cover that one swings up to access the outlets, not the metal of   
   > the pedestal itself.   
      
   That's illegal too.  Older construction only demands in most locations a   
   cover, possibly a weatherproof one, at least not weatherproof in-use.   
   As long as the breaker is off when you insert your tester or plug, a   
   little moisture won't kill you when you turn it on.  It shouldn't spark   
   because of the solid connection.  It's no different than me plugging in   
   my Power Watchdog and then plugging in my RV cord that hangs down just   
   barely above the ground.  It's gonna get wet if it rains.  Though I   
   wouldn't go over and grab it in the rain, that's just how it's done.   
      
   I've put in several exterior outlets at my house and they have all been   
   weatherproof "in-use" type.  I don't recall for sure, but I think that   
   is now code for new construction in my state.   
      
   I would say it's pretty bad to have an exterior outlet without any cover   
   at all over it and everything else at the place would then be suspect.   
   You gotta fix things!   
      
      
   >>>>    FWIW, I use a Power Watchdog and it works nicely, though I   
   >>>>    did have to cover up the one side as it had a ridiculous   
   >>>>    bright light coming off of it.   
   >>>   
   >>> Is this some device that goes inside the trailer?  If it goes   
   >>> on the plug in pedestal, it must be *really* bright to be a   
   >>> bother.   
   >>   
   >>   It goes in at the pedestal.  You plug it in and it can be   
   >>   connected to from your phone.  Gives a readout of current   
   >>   voltages and how much you have used.  As far as the light, it   
   >>   was ridiculous that they would think it is OK for it to be as   
   >>   bright as it was.  Now I'm very wary of not intruding on other   
   >>   people's enjoyment of things, and having this bright a light   
   >>   seemed ridiculous...   
   >   
   > Very considerate.  One of the "features" of the camp we stayed at   
   > in western Nebraska (Merritt Reservoir) is stargazing.  Apparently   
   > they went after (and got) some kind of designation...   
      
   It's called a "Dark Sky" location.  Very hard to find good ones these   
   days.  You really have to go out into the wilderness to have a chance.   
   Some places in Utah were supposed to be ones, but there was just enough   
   light where we were we couldn't see shit.   
      
   > https://outdoornebraska.gov/location/merritt-reservoir/   
   >   
   > When I was up to pee in the night (maybe 2:00 am?) I stepped out   
   > the trailer door to have a look.  The view wasn't impressive,   
   > partly because the next trailer had all their external LED lights   
   > on.     
      
   People are so weird.  I turn off everything at night.   
      
   > I tend to be sensitive to light *in* the trailer too, and have   
   > resported to putting black electrical tape over the brighter   
   > indicator lamps that I can't turn off somehow.  The "Magic Fan" on   
   > the ceiling over the bed seems to have a nice thermostat   
   > controlled setting, but it has a *really* bright green LED that   
   > lights uo in that mode.  And if I put tape over it, the remote no   
   > longer works (i.e., the IR receiver must be very near that LED).   
   > So I haven't used it yet during the night.   
      
   My wife is crazy about light when she's trying to sleep.  It doesn't   
   bother me that much, but any little light drives her crazy.  In Omaha I   
   ended up parking under a light pole and had to tape a towel over the fan   
   vent.  And like you, we have a ridiculous amount of things that light up   
   in the View.  The worst of all is the solar charging monitor.  All it   
   takes is a hint of light in the morning and the damn things wakes up and   
   starts flashing.  It woke me up several times, which surprised me, but I   
   checked it out and there's no way to turn it off.  So, like you I've got   
   to get serious about covering up some of those LED lights.   
      
      
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