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      XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, sac.politics, talk.politics.guns       XPost: talk.politics.misc, alt.law-enforcement       From: yourdime@outlook.com              For months, cities around the state have ramped up enforcement against       people sleeping in tents on the street. Now, some are focusing on a new       target: People who live in vehicles.              Wayne Gardiner, 58, watched his home of 20 years roll onto the back of a       flatbed tow truck in San Jose on a recent Monday afternoon. Then he       realized he’d forgotten something inside.              He threw open compartments in the bottom of the RV as fast as he could,       looking for the pressure-washing tools he uses for cleaning jobs to make       extra money. As the RV rose up onto the truck, about to head off to a       junk yard, Gardiner found the black backpack full of tools and pulled it       out.              Then he stood back with his rottweiler, Buddy, and some of his       possessions in green trash bags at his feet, and watched the truck drive       away. He held his emotions in check.              “If I get myself involved with that, I’ll be a wreck,” Gardiner said. “I       gotta let it go.”              San Jose is towing vehicles from different areas of the city in a new       effort to rid the streets of lived-in vehicles. Last month, it started       clearing its largest homeless encampment – a makeshift city in Columbus       Park, where Gardiner and hundreds of other people had been sleeping in       cars, RVs and tents.              San Francisco passed a new policy this summer banning large vehicles       from parking on any city street for more than two hours — effectively       making it illegal to live in an RV on the street.              Even smaller cities, including Carlsbad outside of San Diego, and San       Mateo in the Bay Area, have adopted new policies targeting people living       in cars and RVs.              The issue has attracted the attention of state legislators as well.       Assembly Bill 630, which cleared another legislative hurdle Friday,       would make it easier for certain cities to dispose of RVs parked on       their streets.              “We have stories from people who have inoperable RVs that are parked in       their neighborhoods, under freeways, that they know are ground-zero for       drugs, for prostitution rings, for other criminal activities that are       happening there,” said the bill’s author, Assemblymember Mark Gonzalez,       a Los Angeles Democrat. “So what we’re trying to do is address this       issue head-on.”              The push comes as rows of RVs and lived-in cars line streets in cities       across the state, frustrating voters and creating issues with trash,       waste water and traffic visibility. The number of lived-in vehicles on       San Francisco’s streets has risen over the past year — from 474 in July       2024 to 612 in June 2025, even as the number of tents dropped from 319       to 165, according to the city’s count.              Vehicle homelessness can be more difficult for cities to manage than       tent encampments. People often are reluctant to give up the safety and       security of their RV or car in exchange for a temporary shelter bed or       short-term housing. And many cities have nowhere to store RVs, and       nowhere for them to park legally.              Advocates for the rights of unhoused Californians say doling out       punishment to deal with the issue will make the homelessness crisis       worse. When cities tow lived-in cars and RVs, their owners often can’t       get them back because they can’t pay the towing and storage fees, said       Eleana Binder, public policy director for GLIDE, which serves San       Franciscans living in homelessness and poverty. They end up with nowhere       else to go.              “It does increase street homelessness, because people are right on the       edge,” she said. “For a lot of people, a vehicle is their only asset,       their last step before street homelessness.”              Tickets and tows       Ordinances that regulate homeless encampments often target people       sleeping in tents, not vehicles. As a result, police have used parking       ordinances to try to clear vehicle encampments by giving tickets and       either towing or threatening to tow. But that approach doesn’t take into       account the fact that the cars and RVs are people’s homes.              In some places, new policies that specifically address people living in       cars and RVs try to address that problem by providing services as well       as tickets and tows.              Gardiner, who watched the city of San Jose tow his home, was luckier       than many. The city paid him $2,000 for his RV, as part of a pilot       program intended to convince people to give up their vehicles and move       indoors. He also got a free hotel room, where the city told him he could       stay for up to a year.              Gardiner was one of several hundred people living in San Jose’s largest       encampment — a sprawling collection of RVs, cars and tents scattered       across a rutted, dirt field in Columbus Park and spilling onto       surrounding streets. City crews began clearing the camp in August, and       have towed 78 vehicles and moved 128 people indoors, according to the       city.              The city estimates 370 people lived at Columbus Park when the operation       started, but advocates say it was more. And not everyone has been       offered the $2,000 buy-back program, a motel stay or other help.              Valerie Vallejos, who lives in her van at Columbus Park while she       studies cosmetology at San Jose City College, said she was visiting her       children in Stockton when outreach workers came to the park offering       people services. Now she’s trying to get on the list, hoping to get a       housing placement or at least a reprieve from threats of towing. So far,       she’s had no luck.              “I’m going to keep coming back out until I get something,” she said.       “It’s my only option. What else can I do?”              San Jose is cracking down in other places, too. Officials launched a       pilot program earlier this year that bans oversized and lived-in       vehicles in certain parts of the city. The city first posts signs and       puts up flyers warning people to move their vehicles, then tows if       people don’t move. Since January, the city has towed 19 RVs and trailers       and 45 other vehicles, according to its online dashboard. But many       vehicles return after the enforcement blitz. To date, the city has       completed enforcement in 38 “tow-away zones,” where there were a total       of 1,175 cars and RVs. Ninety days after that enforcement, 671 vehicles       had returned to those locations.              “It’s a start,” said San Jose Mayor Matt Mahan, who acknowledged that       towing won’t magically make street homelessness disappear. But he said       even forcing RVs to move temporarily can help mitigate the problems the       city has seen in long-standing encampments, such as methamphetamine       labs, fires and the accumulation of dilapidated, abandoned vehicles.              “This is about providing relief to neighbors and small businesses that       have had permanent RV encampments for years on end,” Mahan said.              Since the beginning of the year, San Jose has enforced three “tow-away              [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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