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   From: ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net   
      
   HOWEDY lugnut,   
      
   "Ludwig Smith"  wrote in message   
   news:49a7s0lpnr474ge05b8cqvhmr6cmgltkah@4ax.com...   
   > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 21:35:26 -0500, "Tee"   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   > >Its really amazing how the same dog   
   > >will act like a maniac towards me at   
   > >her house but like a perfectly trained,   
   > >calm dog at my house.   
      
   Seem lugnut FORGOT that's on accHOWENT   
   of tara o. aka tee ABUSES her dogs. She can't   
   GET HOWET DOIN THAT when she's AT her   
   FRIEND'S HOWES.   
      
   JUST LIKE HOWE you can't get HOWET postin   
   here abHOWETS nodoGgamenedMOORE you   
   dog abusing punk thug coward.   
      
   > > I was surprised to find that its not always the   
   > >person the dog takes commands from but the   
   > >environment the person is in that can make the   
   > >decision.   
      
   What your PAL tara o. aka tee is referring to is   
   STATE CONDITIONED LEARNING, lugnut. You   
   ain't familiar with THAT on accHOWENT of you   
   ain't familiar with dog trainin, you only know choke   
   avoid bribe intimidate and murder dogs you're   
   AFRAID to HURT and INTIMIDATE someMOORE.   
      
   > How is the dog at your house when the owner   
   > is with him?  What about at a different site?   
      
   BWEEEEEEEEEAAAHAHAHAHHAHHAAA!!!   
      
   > Are you sure it is the differing environment   
   > that is causing the dog to berserk   
      
   Yeah. The dog KNOWS tara o. aka tee will   
   HURT and INTIMIDATE him JUST LIKE HOWE   
   she done her own DEAD DOG Summer.   
      
   REMEMBER NHOWE, lugnut?   
      
   > or is it rather the presence of the owner that is giving   
   > the dog tacit 'permission' to behave in such a manner?   
      
   It's the ABSENCE of the OWNER that allHOWES   
   tara o. aka tee to ABUSE the dog IN PRIVATE.   
      
   > If it is the environment,   
      
   Your PAL tara o. aka tee is a DOG ABUSING MENTAL CASE.   
      
   Like yourself, lugnut, you dog abusing punk thug coward.   
      
   > then obviously it is just a matter of   
   > generalizing the commands.   
      
   The dog KNOWS he's GONNA GET HURT   
   when tara o. aka tee is ALONE with him.   
      
   > I wonder though, if it is rather the   
   > presence of the owner.   
      
   INDEED? Kinda like HOWE kids ACT HOWET   
   when WON parent is an ABUSER and the other   
   is the PROTECTOR.   
      
   BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!   
      
   >In which case, the difficulties become a little more difficult.   
      
   You're full of crap you miserable FRAUD.   
      
   > Ludwig Smith   
      
   You bums HURT and INTIMIDATE and MURDER dogs   
   and LIE abHOWET it and you can't post here abHOWETS   
   nodoGgamenedMOORE.   
      
   > Dog FAQS   
      
   Like your PAL sindy SADIST mooeron of HOWER   
   faqs pages on K-9Web.Com:   
      
   "Many People Have Problems Getting The Pinch   
   Right, Either They Do Not Pinch Enough, Or They   
   Have A Very Stoic Dog. Some Dogs Will Collapse   
   Into A Heap. About The Ear Pinch: You Must Keep   
   The Pressure Up," sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM"   
   mooreon, author of HOWER FAQ's pages on k9 web.   
      
      
   "A CHIN CHUCK" Makes A Resounding   
   Sound Distraction: "When You Chuck The   
   Dog The Sound Will Travel Up The Mandible   
   To The Ears And Give A Popping Sound To   
   The Dog," captain arthur haggerty.   
      
     "Granted That The Dog Who Fears Retribution   
     Will Adore His Owner," lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"   
     lynn.   
      
     lyinglynn writes to a new foster care giver:   
     For barking in the crate - leave the leash on and   
     pass it through the crate door.  Attach a line to it.   
     When he barks, use the line for a correction.   
      
    - if necessary, go to a citronella bark collar.   
      
     Lynn K.   
      
   "Warning: Sometimes The Corrections Will Seem   
   Quite Harsh And  Cause You To Cringe. This Is A   
   Normal Reaction The First Few  Times It Happens,   
   But You'll Get Over It."mike duforth, author:   
   "CourteHOWES Canine."   
      
   lying frosty dahl, ethical breeder, expert   
   trainer, discoverer of cannibalism in Labradors:   
      
   "Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper   
   wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable   
   dogs may require you to progress to striking them more   
   sharply. REPEAT, VARYING HOW HARD YOU HIT THE   
   DOG. Now you are ready to progress to what most people   
   think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch.   
      
   Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so   
   urgent that resisting your will fades in importance.   
      
   but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to   
   escaping the ear pinch even get a studded collar and pinch   
   the ear against that if the dog still does not open its mouth,   
   get out the shotshell.   
      
   Try pinching the ear between the metal casing   
   and the collar, even the buckle on the collar.   
      
   Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in   
      
   With your hand on the collar and ear, say, 'fetch.'   
      
   Immediately tap the dog on the hindquarters with the stick.   
      
   Repeat "fetch" and pinch the ear all the way to the dummy.   
   You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead of your   
   thumb; Say 'fetch' while pressing the dummy against its lips   
   and pinching its ear," lying frosty dahl.   
      
               terri willis, PsychoclHOWEN wrote:   
               "Nope. That "beating dogs with sticks"   
               things is something you twisted out of   
               context, because you are full of bizarro   
               manure."   
      
   "Well, Jack Did Hit My Dog. Actually I'd Call It   
   A Sharp Tap Of The Crook To The Nose. I Know   
   Jack Wouldn't HaveDone It If He Thought Solo   
   Couldn't Take It. I Still Crate Him Because   
   Otherwise I Fear He Might Eat My Cat," melanie.   
      
   "An indelible impression can sometimes be made   
   by giving the dog a hard spanking of long duration,   
   then leaving him tied by the mess he's made so you   
   can come back at twenty minute intervals and punish   
   him again for the same thing.   
      
   In most cases, the dog that deliberately does this   
   disagreeable thing cannot be made reliable by the   
   light spanking that some owners seem to think is   
   adequate punishment.   
      
   It will be better for your dog, as well as the house,   
   if you really pour it on him," wm koehler.   
      
          "BethF"  wrote in message   
           news:v4r8kkfr257e1a@corp.supernews.com...   
      
        > "Kyle Boatright"    
        wrote in message   
        >   
        > Kyle,  FWIW, i thought it was pretty funny,   
        > and i often call my little dog the turd, because   
        > he is one. Some folks think its HORRRIBLE i   
        > would insult my dog like that so i guess its just a   
        > matter of personality.   
      
        > Kyle, the best way to teach him to stay away is to   
        > step on him once. Seriously.   
      
   "Beth F"  wrote in message:   
      
    "Whatever motivates the dog, but I daresay most of the dogs   
    I have in classes just aren't that interested in praise."   
      
   "Hold Back The Dobie Girl So That Izzy Can   
   Put Simon In His Place." BINACA bethFIST   
      
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