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      XPost: uk.rec.pets.misc, alt.med.veterinary, rec.pets.dogs.behavior       XPost: alt.animals.dog, alt.pets.dogs.pitbull, alt.pets.dogs.labrador       XPost: rec.pets.dogs.rescue, rec.pets.dogs.health, rec.pets.dogs.breeds              From: Anne (annek@bigfoot.com)       Subject: Jerry Howe's Free Training Manual       Date: 2002-05-17 12:59:05 PST              I adopted my little shepherd mix pup, Ginger about       a month ago and enrolled us in obedience school       so she could learn to be a good house dog.               I love the classes and she is doing very, very well,       but a few of the techniques the trainer is teaching       us make me a little uncomfortable.              In the instances where I tried to use them exactly,       poor Ginger ended up cowering away from me and       looking sad and scared, and that bothered me.              Our trainer's main theory seems to be contained in       what he told us: Your dog has to fear your wrath more       than he looks forward to any pleasure gained by       disobeying you, whether it be to steal food or chase       a rabbit or just ignore a command.              I dont want Ginger to fear my wrath, or be intimidated       by me, but I also want her to listen! A few times, I       ignored the training method we were taught in school,       and tried just gently correcting her and showing her       again how to do what I wanted, along with lots and lots       of encouraging praise and she seemed to learn more       quickly that way than when I was yelling NO at the top       of my voice.              I downloaded Jerry Howe's Wits End manual and       read through it, and so much of it rang true to what       my own experience with Ginger has been. She learns       if I yell and yank her leash, but she is also unhappy       and frightened. She learns if I correct her gently and       encourage her, and she actually enjoys our training       sessions then.              So even though I havent used Mr. Howe's techniques       exactly yet, it seems like they would work very well for       me and Ginger!              I especially was interested in the part about submission       and rolling your dog over, as that is exactly what the trainer       told us to do, even if the dog was scared and snapped when       you did it!              According to Mr. Howe's manual, thats a terrible thing to do to       your dog, and after seeing a cowering little pup in class used as       an example in front of 15 other dogs, I have to agree with him!       My Ginger rolls over all the time, to have her tummy rubbed, and       Im glad I never had to try to force her like the trainer advised,       as now I see I might have harmed her psychologically by doing       that!              I just wanted to say that I was very happy to get the information       Mr. Howe provided, since a lot of it just validated my own doubts       about our trainer's methods and I feel better now about ignoring       some of them. Im going to read through the Wits End manual again       and try out some of the methods there.              I dont care if Ginger becomes a superdog...I just want       her to be a happy house dog that comes when I call       without fail, and doesnt jump on people or furniture or       steal food -- the usual good house dog behaviors.              Im much more comfortable with Mr. Howe's methods       for achieving this.              Has anyone else used this manual? Any feedback       from other users would really be appreciated.              Anne              From: Marisa (marisab@hotmail.com)       Subject: Re: Jerry Howe's Free Training Manual       Date: 2002-05-17 13:10:26 PST              Hello-              I agree with you!              I didn't want to scare my dog, or hurt her, or pull on her leash,       or any of that. I wanted her to want to work with me, and do       things with me the right way on her own. Or else I don't have a       dog, I would have a robot dog with a sad face a broken spirit.              I have had a German Shepherd pup. And a couple mixes.       They can be challanging. But let me tell you, the reward       you get from having a trained, happy German Shep far out       weighs the weeks or months or training.              And you DON'T have to hurt them to get them to listen. :)              I am now reading Jerrys manual and working with       it for my second day. My roomates, my boyfriend,       and me have already noticed that I have more "control"       without actually working harder to get it with her.              I really enjoy Jerrys "distraction" methods of sort,       the really are working fast for my Jack Russell.              Stick with it! and hey the worst that can happen       is you instill a good feeling with your dog, who       won't be afriad of you throwing her on her back,       or jerking her leash and possibly creating a       spinal injury :)              marisa              ------------------------------------------------------------------       --------------              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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