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   The Puppy Wizard to Jessica Benko   
   Re: Pissing Papillon   
   30 Dec 04 10:39:07   
   
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   XPost: alt.animals.dog, alt.pets.dogs.pitbull, alt.pets.dogs.labrador   
   XPost: rec.pets.dogs.rescue, rec.pets.dogs.health, rec.pets.dogs.breeds   
   From: ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net   
      
   HOWEDY Jessica,   
      
   "Jessica Benko"  wrote in message   
   news:lwIAd.14761$152.1613@trndny01...   
   >   
   > How exactly are you cleaning up after him?   
      
   AlthHOWE cleanlieness is next to G-Dlieness,   
   that ain't got NUTHIN to do with HOWEsbreakin.   
      
   > I would recommend cleaning it with Nature's   
   > Miracle to destroy his scent.   
      
   That's sheer idiocy. Dogs DO NOT MARK OVER   
   their own scent. FurtherMOORE, it's HUGELY   
   unlikely your enzymatic cleaner is gonna HIDE   
   the scent from a DOG.   
      
   >  Then go ahead with the vinegar solution.   
      
   You mean to mark over the spots the dog anxiHOWESLY   
   pisses on when IT becomes anxiHOWES? You AIN'T gonna   
   "TRAIN" the dog NOT to PISS when IT becomes AFRAID   
   and INSECURE.   
      
   >  Also, you can try squirting him directly   
   > if you catch him in the act.   
      
   You mean spray the dog in the eyes with vinegar   
   to make IT FEEL MOORE SECURE and SAFE   
   and S-HOWEND so IT won't ANXXXIHOWESLY   
   PISS your HOWES?   
      
   A WIZE IDEA.   
      
   HOWE does it work?   
      
   >  Grabbing him by his scruff will make   
   > him insecure and a fearful dog will only   
   > develop more problems later.   
      
   Oh. Is THAT HOWE COME you SPRAY VINEGAR   
   into ITS EYES, to MAKE IT FEEL LESS FEARFUL   
   and MOORE SECURE?   
      
   Looks like you're using the Hunemann Method:   
   "If it don't KILL you it'll make you STRONGER?"   
      
   > ~J   
      
   PERHAPS THAT'S HOWE COME Jerry Howe   
   BECAME The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~  )  > ?   
      
   HOWEver, The Amazing Puppy Wizard suggests   
   what's good for the Golden Goose MAY KILL a   
   PUPPY DOG.   
      
   "A word to the WIZE, is sufficient," The Puppy Wizard's Nana.   
      
   The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; ~   )   >   
      
   > "Melanie L Chang"  wrote in message   
   > news:cqtj0f$9lte$1@netnews.upenn.edu...   
   >   
   > >I have had Skeeter the rescue Pap for about   
   > >five months now.  Skeeter is a delightful little   
   > >dog but he marks in the house.  I feel that he is   
   > > basically housebroken because he seems to   
   > >understand that outside is where we go to pee,   
   > >will hold it all night, will ring a bell to go out, etc.   
   > > but Skeeter does seem to believe that marking   
   > > does not count as peeing.   
   > >   
   > > I'd been warned that prior owners reported marking in the   
   house so since   
   > > the beginning I've treated him as if he is not housebroken --   
   supervised,   
   > > crated if I can't watch him so he has no opportunity for   
   accidents, praise   
   > > and treats EVERY time he goes outside.  Because it is   
   exhausting to live   
   > > this way (one eye on the dog at all times) I resorted to using   
   a belly   
   > > band (I expected that I would mess up -- and figured at least   
   this way he   
   > > wouldn't be able to sprinkle stuff because his accidents are   
   so small I'd   
   > > have no hope of finding and cleaning them up) and so I know   
   that as time   
   > > went on the marking behavior seemed to go away -- because the   
   belly band   
   > > is always dry.  So I thought we'd licked it.   
   > >   
   > > I am currently visiting my family in Virginia and now that we   
   are in a new   
   > > place, the behavior is back in full force.  This house is much   
   larger and   
   > > my family is very busy and Skeeter has had more opportunities   
   to mess up   
   > > so it's understandable but I'm still pretty disappointed that   
   Skeeter is   
   > > messing up at all.  I felt bad for him being stuck in his   
   crate WAY longer   
   > > hours than he should be, so I started letting him be loose   
   with the belly   
   > > band on and this is how I discovered (by checking it often in   
   a paranoid   
   > > fashion) that he likes to mark at least once or twice a DAY   
   while we are   
   > > here.  Since allowing him to continue doing this is   
   counter-productive I   
   > > have no choice but to keep in crated almost all the time,   
   which I don't   
   > > feel good about.  But I also feel angry and frustrated.  I've   
   been very   
   > > diligent about working on the housetraining (I've essentially   
   been   
   > > housetraining him for the last five months) but now it seems   
   like none of   
   > > it sank in at all as far as the marking thing goes.  I know   
   marking is   
   > > kind of separate from housetraining but I don't know any other   
   way to try   
   > > to train a dog not to do it.   
   > >   
   > > Is there anything else I can try, other than treating Skeeter   
   like he   
   > > isn't housebroken, forever?  Do I just have to resign myself   
   to having a   
   > > small dog that has to wear a diaper all the time?  I used to   
   scoff at   
   > > people who claimed that male toy breed dogs cannot be   
   housebroken, but now   
   > > I know how they feel.  Have any of you had success licking   
   this kind of   
   > > problem?  Skeeter is neutered and has been since he was six   
   months old.   
   > >   
   > > I just don't get it.  When I brought Solo home he was 16   
   months old and   
   > > still intact.  He marked the door the evening I brought him   
   home, I   
   > > told him "No, we don't do that here" (exactly that   
   emotionlessly) and   
   > > he said "OK" and NEVER did it again.  Solo has literally not   
   peed in   
   > > the house since that day, to mark or for any other reason.  I   
   know I   
   > > got lucky that time, but this HAS to be a behavior I can fix!   
   Magic   
   > > trick, secret password, special chemical, whatever, I'll try   
   it.   
   > >   
   > > -- Melanie, Solo the Red, Superfly, and Bladder -- I mean,   
   Skeeter   
   > >   
   > > --   
   >   
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   > >  Melanie Lee Chang                        |  Form ever follows   
   function.   
   > >  Departments of Anthropology and Biology  |   
   > >  University of Pennsylvania               |  -- Louis Sullivan   
   > >  mlchang@sas.upenn.edu                    |   
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