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   From: ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net   
      
   HOWEDY margaret,   
      
   There AIN'T NO WAY NO HOWE TO PUPPERLY   
   HURT and INTIMIDATE a dog or child to TRAIN IT.   
      
      
   "Margaret"  wrote in message   
   news:1paydl5letkb2$.1f5n1diy1r9zh.dlg@40tude.net...   
   > I looked into the 'invisible fence' option a few years ago and   
   decided   
   > against it for my place. People who had used it said it was a   
   training   
   > device, not a quick solution. They said they would not turn it   
   on unless   
   > they were there to watch the dog and turn it off if things went   
   wrong. One   
   > had had a dog blunder out and then get shocked when he tried to   
   come back in   
   > the yard; apparently the system doesn't know which way the   
   animal is going.   
   >   
   > If used carefully the system might be good in some   
   circumstances; or perhaps   
   > there are better designs now.   
   >   
   >   
   > Margaret   
   > -----------   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   > On 25 Dec 2004 09:22:29 -0800, nizzlefry@yahoo.com wrote:   
   >   
   > > Hey guys,   
   > > I live in a neighborhood that believes 100% in the use of   
   either   
   > > electric fences and/or electric shock collars. simple   
   non-violent   
   > > approachs. If you feel the need to do it anyway, think of your   
   dog's   
   > > sanity and mental/physical help.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > Pfunk   
      
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