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   The Puppy Wizard to Tara   
   Re: good dog training books?   
   07 Jan 05 21:00:09   
   
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   From: ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net   
      
   AMAZING?   
      
   "Tara"  wrote in message   
   news:41DECE2C.A78C5C44@verizon.net...   
   > diddy wrote:   
   > >   
   > > in thread news:41DEC292.B17D82C7@verizon.net: Tara   
      
   > > whittled the following words:   
   > >   
   > > > kathleennewton wrote:   
   > > >>   
   > > >> You'll find the selection endless and the best book usually   
   depends on   
   > > >> your own idea of how you want to train and what you expect   
   of your   
   > > >> dog--there isn't only one right way.  A book that you may   
   get alot of   
   > > >> insight from, in regards to your dog's maturation process   
   as well as a   
   > > >> training philosophy is The Art of Raising a Puppy by the   
   Monks of New   
   > > >> Skete.  They are very experienced and insightful, and   
   besides that,   
   > > >> their breed of choice is the Shepherd.  Definitely take a   
   look at it.   
   > > >> Good luck with your new addition.   
   > > >   
   > > > These guys are notnotnot on my top ten list. And they are   
   near the   
   > > > bottom of my list as far as their breeding program goes.   
   > > >   
   > > > In terms of authors, I like Suzanne Clothier (who also has   
   GSDs) and   
   > > > Patricia McConnell.   
   > > >   
   > > > Tara   
   > > >   
   > >   
   > > All good authors.  Every one of them. The Monks of New Skete   
   have come into   
   > > disfavor simply based on their Alpha Roll technique that they   
   promote.   
   >   
   > Not at all in my case. I've personally seen their methods (as   
   applied by   
   > them) NOT work on dogs they themselves have bred. IMO, their   
   methods   
   > actually made the underlying problems *worse*. In three cases,   
   where   
   > they both bred and trained the dogs, they subsequently washed   
   their   
   > hands of the dogs and suggested euthanasia....and then promptly   
   tried to   
   > talk the owners into taking another one of their own pups.   
   >   
   > > Except for that.. all good stuff.   
   > > Also EXCELLENT stuff is (as recommended)  Suzanne Clothier and   
   Patricia   
   > > McConnell.   
   >   
   > Since I have serious issues and doubts about the practices and   
   ethics of   
   > the Monks, I obviously only support the latter two ;-)   
   >   
   > Tara   
      
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