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   From: ThePuppyWizard@EarthLink.Net   
      
   HOWEDY culprit aka kelly aka metta,   
      
   YOUR OWN DOGS GOT THE SAME PROBLEM.   
      
   REMEMBER?   
      
   YOUR OWN DOGS MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD KAT.   
      
   REMEMBER?   
      
   YOUR OWN DOGS STARTED ATTACKING EACH OTHER   
   AND MURDERED YOUR OWN DEAD KAT TWO   
   WEEKS AFTER YOU STARTED SHOCKING THEM.   
      
   REMEMBER?   
      
   "culprit"  wrote in message   
   news:34lr95F4dkdd6U1@individual.net...   
   >   
   > "Cate"  wrote in message   
   > news:Xns95DC67834F5E1orson14850@130.133.1.4...   
   > > While visiting a friend last weekend, I observed some dog   
   aggression   
   > > issues   
   > > and would love to get the group's take and maybe point her   
   toward some   
   > > good   
   > > resources. She's a vet, btw, and she mentioned that virtually   
   all her   
   > > colleagues (residents in a teaching hospital) also have   
   animals with   
   > > behavioral problems--because they all tend to adopt the ones   
   no one else   
   > > wants.   
   > >   
   > > She has two dogs. Small Dog (40 lbs, spayed female, 8 yo,   
   Vizsla) has   
   > > health problems including epilepsy and behavioral issues   
   including   
   > > separation anxiety which mostly manifests as pacing and   
   escaping/tearing   
   > > apart metal and plastic crates. Big Dog (95 lbs, neutered [at   
   1 yo] male,   
   > > 5   
   > > yo, likely Rottie-Dane mix) has aggression issues including 1)   
   attacking   
   > > Small Dog when she seizes, 2) attacking Small Dog when she   
   comes too close   
   > > to his bone, and 3) growling at Small Dog or any of 3 cats   
   when they come   
   > > to close to anywhere he's quietly napping. He'll also   
   occasionally growl   
   > > at   
   > > Small Dog as she paces.   
   >   
   >  i'm not an expert    
   >   
   > but...   
   >   
   > 1)  i don't think it's uncommon for a dog to attack another dog   
   who is   
   > having a seizure, even if there are no other aggression issues.   
   hopefully   
   > Matt has more to say on this.   
   >   
   > 2)  sounds like resource guarding.  all the standard stuff   
   should help, like   
   > not leaving bones and special toys laying about, only offering   
   them when the   
   > dogs are separated.  supervising the dogs at all times or   
   separating them if   
   > they can't be supervised.  feeding the dogs separately.  working   
   with the   
   > dog on "give", taking and returning the bone, etc.   
   >   
   > 3)  this may also be a resource issue, as the "alpha" he has   
   first pick of   
   > sleeping spots.  Lola does this to Manu, even kicking him out of   
   spots.   
   > with us it's never gotten beyond a quiet growl and Manu moving   
   his butt   
   > somewhere else, but i wouldn't count on that in your friend's   
   case.  i'd   
   > suggest teaching the dog that his crate is his sleeping place,   
   period.  or   
   > get each dog their own pillow/dog bed, and enforce the idea that   
   each dog is   
   > only allowed to sleep on their bed, not anywhere else.   
   >   
   > of course, i'd also recommend she consult with a behaviorist or   
   trainer who   
   > specialized with aggressive dogs.   
   >   
   > i don't think rehoming the dog would be my first suggestion, but   
   then i   
   > voluntarily choose to share my home with two potentially   
   aggressive dogs, so   
   > i may be a little nuts.  :-)   
   >   
   >   
   > -kelly   
   >   
   >   
   >   
      
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