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   Re: Non-existent - but NOT imaginary - f   
   09 Feb 05 12:16:53   
   
   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.food.vegan, talk.politics.animals   
      
     · The lives of potential future animals raised for food   
   are more than just "nothing" in the sense that they will   
   exist if nothing prevents them, and possibly as Gonad   
   suggests they also exist in some pre-conceived state.   
   Regardless of whether they do or not, whatever stops   
   their lives from happening is truly preventing animals   
   from having life they otherwise would have had.   
       Revised - 02/02/05   
   _________________________________________________________   
   From: Rudy Canoza    
   Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,alt.food.vegan,talk.po   
   itics.animals,rec.pets.dogs.misc   
   Subject: Re: How to view farm animals?  Answer:  don't view them as Fuckwit   
    David Harrison does   
   Message-ID:    
   Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:39:43 GMT   
      
   Non-existent - but NOT imaginary - farm animals for   
   some bizarre reason have some kind of reality   
   ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ   
   _________________________________________________________   
   From: Jonathan Ball    
   Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals   
   Subject: The Illogic of the Larder, just for FUCKWIT   
   Message-ID:    
   Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:22:20 GMT   
      
   Either farm animals "exist" in some kind of pre-conceived,   
   pre-born state, or they do not.   
   ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ   
   _________________________________________________________   
   From: Jonathan Ball    
   Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian   
   Subject: Re: Livestock gain nothing from life.   
   Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:00:58 GMT   
      
   The rational person realizes:   
      
   1.  He *cannot* know if the animals exist in   
        a 'pre-born' state.   
      
   2.  Even if they do, he knows nothing of that state   
   ŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻŻ ·   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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