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   >> abuse, does not mean you throw the baby out with the bathwater. Used   
   > with   
   >> love, used with wisdom, and used in the most sparing possible   
   > amounts, and   
   >> combined with other methods when appropriate such as withdrawl of   
   >> priviledges, reasoning and explanation, etc. It's a time proven   
   > formula.   
   >> Even for animals.   
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   >   
   >> Trentus   
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