XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.pets.cats.misc, rec.pets.birds   
      
   On 20 May 2005 11:16:44 -0700, "Rudy Canoza"  wrote:   
      
   >dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Wed, 18 May 2005 14:35:37 GMT, Rudy Canoza  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >gay merrington wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> Animals,most if not all,DO experience emotion but certainly not in   
   >a way we   
   >> >> as humans understand.   
   >> >   
   >> >Primitive emotions:  fear, aggression, anger.  They do   
   >> >NOT experience disappointment, dashed hope, envy,   
   >> >Schadenfreude, exultance, pride.   
   >>   
   >>     What do you think prevents them from experiencing   
   >> simple things like that?   
   >   
   >I suspect the same thing that keeps them from doing differential   
   >calculus or studying philosophy,   
      
       How stupid of you.   
      
   >Fuckwit:  the lack of human capacity.   
   >   
   >> As yet we have no reason   
   >> to believe they can't experience pride just as well as anger,   
   >> or envy, or fear.   
   >   
   >Yes, we have ample reason to believe they can't experience pride,   
      
       We have none. We have absolutely no reason, and the proof of   
   that is that you can provide absolutely no reason.   
      
   >Fuckwit - they give no evidence of it.   
      
       Some of them give plenty of evidence of it. You're just too ignorant   
   to know it, and would be too stupid to recognize it if you saw it. That   
   doesn't mean they're not capable of it, just that you're not capable of   
   recognizing it. But you have never been in a situation where you could   
   recognize it anyway, most likely. So, you have never been in a situation   
   where an animal displayed pride, and if you ever were to be in one you   
   would be unable to recognize it, but still hilariously you are insisting that   
   they aren't capable of it. Not any of them! Gonad, you are a retard.   
      
   >I think you also can't   
   >experience it, Fuckwit, because you have nothing in your life of which   
   >to be proud.   
      
       I can be proud that I have defined you Goo. And a Google search   
   will prove it. I can consider my definition of you to be a part of history.   
   Do a Google search for you:   
      
   Results 1 - 2 of 2 for goobernicus. (0.44 seconds)   
      
   and the number one result is me defining you:   
      
   Animals cannot be disappointed.   
   ... Goobernicus Gonad says that Darwin was projecting. This is classic! ...   
   You are Goobernicus Gonad. You "think" you are a genius ...   
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