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   On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:40:58 GMT, cstacy@news.dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy)   
   wrote:   
      
   >dh@. writes:   
   >   
   >   
   >> >Yes, this is the agenda of ARA's. However, I'm a little confused   
   >> >about your political position here. Some of the things that I have   
   >> >read sound a little close to ascribing to the notion that animals   
   >> >have "some" rights.   
   >>   
   >>     I don't believe any of us have rights other than those provided by law.   
   >   
   >I sincerely hope that you do not live in the United States,   
   >because in our country we have a very different theory.   
   >It goes that people are not given rights by law.   
   >Rather, they have many inherent rights, which the   
   >law happens to recognize.   
      
       What created them, if they exist?   
      
   >The most important thing about   
   >a "right" is that it cannot be taken away.   
      
       If they don't exist they can't be taken away. If they are   
   provided by law they can be ignored or discarded.   
      
   >While a law   
   >might sometimes control how those rights are exercised,   
   >no law can remove a person's rights.  The supreme law of   
   >the land does not recognize that animals have any such rights.   
   >Whether they really have any or not is a religous question.   
      
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