XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.pets.cats.misc, alt.pets.rabbits   
   XPost: rec.pets.birds   
      
   On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 12:41:07 -0700, "Dutch"  wrote:   
      
   >You think these   
   >imaginary animals have interests, specifically in being   
   >born, and you are defending these interests.   
      
       That's a lie.   
      
   >You are an AR advocate for imaginary animals.   
      
       That's a lie.   
      
   > >>>>you criticize vegans because they want to "prevent   
   >>>>>animals from being born".   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    I point it out and you take offense to it being   
   >>>> pointed out.   
   >>>   
   >>>No, I find it amusing that a person can state a logical   
   >>>absurdity such as that and not see that implies a belief   
   >>>in "right to life". If no right to life exists in your mind   
   >>>then what weight does your criticism of vegans have?   
   >>   
   >>    They lie when they pretend veg*nism helps animals,   
   >   
   >Does abstaining from battery eggs help animals?   
      
       No.   
      
   >Is that a lie too?   
      
       No.   
      
   >In what way is that different   
   >than abstaining from *any* form of animal   
   >husbandry one finds offensive?   
   >   
   >> as I've told you countless times. But you love lies, so   
   >> that particular criticism that I have about it means   
   >> nothing at all to you...you can't even understand why   
   >> I'm opposed to their/your lying since lying is such a   
   >> hugely significant part of your life.   
   >   
   >I'm not lying David.   
      
       That's a lie.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)