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· Though we have no reason to believe there would
be any loss suffered by potential future animals if
"they" are never born, billions more farm animals will
be born if the Gonad's suggestion to do away with
them is not accepted, as I pointed out on 08/01/00.
Revised - 02/04/05
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From: jonball52@altavista.com (Jonathan Ball)
Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,alt.food.vegan
Subject: Re: How Jonathan Ball wants people to feel about the silly arse,
Fuckwith
Date: 11 Apr 2002 18:53:15 -0700
People who don't want them to exist should be "vegans".
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From: Rudy Canoza
Newsgroups: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian,talk.politics.animals,alt.food.vegan
Subject: Re: Skunky pisses all over the trolls
Message-ID:
Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 19:02:08 GMT
"giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of
their deaths
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From: Dieter
Newsgroups: talk.politics.animals,alt.philosophy,talk.philosophy
misc,alt.agnosticism,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: Existence is not a benefit
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Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 22:51:07 GMT
logically one MUST conclude that not raising them in the
first place is the ethically superior choice.
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From: Wilson Woods
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 19:44:22 GMT
It is morally wrong, in an absolute sense
- unjust, in other words - if humans kill animals they
don't need to kill, i.e. not in self defense. There's
your answer.
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From: Jonathan Ball
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Subject: Karen Winter's abandonment of her son, and why it matters
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:15:39 GMT
killing the animals needlessly and merely for human convenience
is the worst violation of their rights.
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From: "Rudy Canoza"
Date: 2 Mar 2005 10:07:16 -0800
Humans could change it. They could change it by ending it.
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From: Rudy Canoza
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2005 20:59:45 GMT
There is no "selfishness" involved in wanting farm
animals not to exist as a step towards creating a more
just world.
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