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   Message 6,689 of 8,070   
   dh@. to Jim Elbrecht   
   Re: Dogs and anticipation?   
   02 Jul 05 14:49:08   
   
   XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.pets.dogs.health, misc.rural   
      
   On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:53:22 -0400, Jim Elbrecht  wrote:   
      
   >On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:31:38 -0400, whatthe@fu?.com wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 04:49:10 GMT, Goo wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>    No dog has any sense of anticipation longer than a   
   >>>    couple of seconds.   
   >>   
   >>     Can you back up that absurd sounding claim?   
   >   
   >If Goo comes back with a theory-- I'll dispute it with personal   
   >experience.   
      
       Goo is short for Goobernicus. It would be hilarious to see him   
   try to defend his beliefs, but he is most likely as afraid to try as   
   he is with a number of similar absurd sounding ideas that he   
   wants to promote. He also insists that animals are incapable   
   of feeling pride, and also disappointment. It's a level of ignorance   
   that is quite impressive. LOL...Darwin gives an excellent example   
   of his dog experiencing disappointment, and describes the dog's   
   expression of it and his change of behaviour as a result of it. Goo   
   quite amusingly insists that Darwin's observation is merely his own   
   projection of an emotion Goo believes--now get this--is too complex   
   for animals to be able to experience. Hilarious!   
      
   >I used to keep my small-game hunting jacket in an upstairs closet.   
   >When I was hunting that day I would take it out of the closet and   
   >carry it downstairs.     My rabbit dog would go nuts until we left the   
   >house together, me wearing the jacket.  It didn't matter if it was 10   
   >minutes for a quick cup of coffee or several hours for an afternoon   
   >hunt.   If I went outside without the jacket she'd remain inside   
   >'guarding' it.   
   >   
   >Now she was an exceptional dog- a mutt from a mostly beagle and mostly   
   >black & tan- so I don't doubt that there are some dogs [just like some   
   >people] that can't anticipate any more than a couple seconds.   But   
   >the *No dogs* claim is definitely wrong.   
   >   
   >Jim   
      
       I feel quite certain that he would not only insist no dogs are able   
   to, but that no animals at all are capable of it, if he is able to muster   
   up the courage to defend his absurd beliefs. He is very much the   
   coward about things like this, but maybe he'll share some of his   
   vast and amusing "knowledge" and "experience". Goo?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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