XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.pets.dogs.health, misc.rural   
      
   On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 20:40:05 GMT, Rudy Canoza  wrote:   
      
   >dh@. wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 07:53:22 -0400, Jim Elbrecht  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 14:31:38 -0400, whatthe@fu?.com wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 04:49:10 GMT, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   No dog has any sense of anticipation longer than a   
   >>>>>   couple of seconds.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    Can you back up that absurd sounding claim?   
   >>>   
   >>>If Goo comes back with a theory-- I'll dispute it with personal   
   >>>experience.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>     Goo is short for Goobernicus.   
   >   
   >Goo is   
      
       Okay Goo, calm down, I'll finish it: Goo is short for Goobernicus   
   Gonad...the moron who thinks he's a genius.   
      
   >your fuckwitted baby talk, an absolute disgrace   
   >for a forty-six year old (pseudo) man to use.   
   >   
   >   
   >> It would be hilarious to see him   
   >> try to defend his beliefs, but he is most likely as afraid to try as   
   >> he is with a number of similar absurd sounding ideas that he   
   >> wants to promote. He also insists that animals are incapable   
   >> of feeling pride, and also disappointment.   
   >   
   >Non human animals experience neither pride nor   
   >disappointment.  They don't have the mental ability to   
   >feel either.   
      
       It has already been decided that pride and disappointment are   
   no more difficult to experience than anger Gonad.   
      
   >>>I used to keep my small-game hunting jacket in an upstairs closet.   
   >>>When I was hunting that day I would take it out of the closet and   
   >>>carry it downstairs.     My rabbit dog would go nuts until we left the   
   >>>house together, me wearing the jacket.   
   >   
   >The jacket was a signal.  Animals respond to signals.   
   >Dr. Pavlov demonstrated that over 100 years ago.   
   >   
   >That isn't the same thing as anticipation.  If you tell   
   >your dog today you're going to go rabbit hunting   
   >tomorrow, the dog will stare at you stupidly.   
      
       That's a different thing Goo, though you're quite obviously too   
   stupid to understand it. Here's a clue: just because a dog can't   
   understand English, doesn't mean he can't anticipate things that   
   he does understand.   
      
   >>>Now she was an exceptional dog- a mutt from a mostly beagle and mostly   
   >>>black & tan- so I don't doubt that there are some dogs [just like some   
   >>>people] that can't anticipate any more than a couple seconds.   But   
   >>>the *No dogs* claim is definitely wrong.   
   >>>   
   >>>Jim   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>     I feel quite certain that he would not only insist no dogs are able   
   >> to,   
   >   
   >No dogs experience "anticipation".   
      
       So, you are "brave" enough to insist that much, but you are still   
   too cowardly to explain why you "think" a dog can experience   
   aniticipation for a somehow predetermined period of time, and then   
   later insist that no dogs experience it at all. You will not explain   
   it because you can not explain it, and you won't try to explain it   
   because your are afraid--and rightly so--that it would only be more   
   proof of how stupid and ignorant you are. You're very consistent.   
      
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