XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.pets.dogs.health, misc.rural   
      
   On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:21:03 GMT, Rudy Canoza  wrote:   
      
   >dh@. wrote:   
      
   >>     It has already been decided that pride and disappointment are   
   >> no more difficult to experience than anger   
   >   
   >No, that has not been decided.  You have emptily   
   >asserted it.   
      
       It has been decided.   
      
   >Animals do not experience pride or disappointment.  Period.   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>I used to keep my small-game hunting jacket in an upstairs closet.   
   >>>>>When I was hunting that day I would take it out of the closet and   
   >>>>>carry it downstairs.     My rabbit dog would go nuts until we left the   
   >>>>>house together, me wearing the jacket.   
   >>>   
   >>>The jacket was a signal.  Animals respond to signals.   
   >>>Dr. Pavlov demonstrated that over 100 years ago.   
   >>>   
   >>>That isn't the same thing as anticipation.  If you tell   
   >>>your dog today you're going to go rabbit hunting   
   >>>tomorrow, the dog will stare at you stupidly.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>     That's a different thing Goo,   
   >   
   >Stop using baby talk, Fuckwit.   
   >   
   >It isn't a different thing.  A human WILL anticipate   
   >going rabbit hunting after being told he's going to be   
   >taken rabbit hunting the next day.   
      
       That's only if he can understand English. Dog's can't.   
   You're just not capable of understanding the difference,   
   which is incredible to say the least, but I've learned that   
   your limitations really are incredibly severe.   
      
   >Animals do not anticipate.  Thanks for admitting it.   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>Now she was an exceptional dog- a mutt from a mostly beagle and mostly   
   >>>>>black & tan- so I don't doubt that there are some dogs [just like some   
   >>>>>people] that can't anticipate any more than a couple seconds.   But   
   >>>>>the *No dogs* claim is definitely wrong.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Jim   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    I feel quite certain that he would not only insist no dogs are able   
   >>>>to,   
   >>>   
   >>>No dogs experience "anticipation".   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>     So, you are "brave" enough to insist that much, but you are still   
   >> too cowardly to explain why you "think" a dog can experience   
   >> aniticipation for a somehow predetermined period of time, and then   
   >> later insist that no dogs experience it at all.   
   >   
   >It isn't anticipating, in the sense you want to give   
   >it, AT ALL.  Dogs NEVER anticipate,   
      
       Yes they do.   
      
   >nor do cats,   
      
       LOL!!! I mean: Yes they do.   
      
   >or   
   >cattle,   
      
       Yes they do.   
      
   >or any other animal you've ever encountered.   
      
       Chickens do too Goo. You are an infant when it comes to having   
   any clue about animals, so here's the baby talk that you inspire and   
   earn, you ignorant little GooGooGoobernical Gonad.....goochy goochy   
   Goobergoo.....you helpless, drooling little Goo you....   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)