XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.pets.dogs.health, misc.rural   
      
   On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:48:32 GMT, Rudy Canoza  wrote:   
      
   >dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:21:03 GMT, Rudy Canoza  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>dh@. wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>>    It has already been decided that pride and disappointment are   
   >>>>no more difficult to experience than anger   
   >>>   
   >>>No, that has not been decided.  You have emptily   
   >>>asserted it.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>     It has been decided.   
   >   
   >It has not been decided.  You are making an empty claim.   
   >   
   >Animals do not experience pride or disappointment.  Period.   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>>>>I used to keep my small-game hunting jacket in an upstairs closet.   
   >>>>>>>When I was hunting that day I would take it out of the closet and   
   >>>>>>>carry it downstairs.     My rabbit dog would go nuts until we left the   
   >>>>>>>house together, me wearing the jacket.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>The jacket was a signal.  Animals respond to signals.   
   >>>>>Dr. Pavlov demonstrated that over 100 years ago.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>That isn't the same thing as anticipation.  If you tell   
   >>>>>your dog today you're going to go rabbit hunting   
   >>>>>tomorrow, the dog will stare at you stupidly.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    That's a different thing Goo,   
   >>>   
   >>>Stop using baby talk, Fuckwit.   
   >>>   
   >>>It isn't a different thing.  A human WILL anticipate   
   >>>going rabbit hunting after being told he's going to be   
   >>>taken rabbit hunting the next day.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>     That's only if he can understand English.   
   >   
   >No.  A Chinese or French or Brazilian parent might tell   
   >his son the same thing.   
      
       And in most cases the kid wouldn't care any more   
   about it than their dog would if they told the dog instead,   
   because neither of them understand English in most cases.   
      
   >> Dog's can't.   
   >   
   >DOGS, not "dog's", you illiterate fuck.   
   >   
   >Dogs can't anticipate.   
      
       Yes they can. Your job, which you will fail at completely,   
   is to explain what would prevent them from being able to.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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