XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.pets.dogs.health, misc.rural   
      
   On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 17:16:14 GMT, Rudy Canoza  wrote:   
      
   >dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Mon, 04 Jul 2005 15:48:32 GMT, Rudy Canoza  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>dh@. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:21:03 GMT, Rudy Canoza  wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>>   It has already been decided that pride and disappointment are   
   >>>>>>no more difficult to experience than anger   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>No, that has not been decided.  You have emptily   
   >>>>>asserted it.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    It has been decided.   
   >>>   
   >>>It has not been decided.  You are making an empty claim.   
   >>>   
   >>>Animals do not experience pride or disappointment.  Period.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>>>>I used to keep my small-game hunting jacket in an upstairs closet.   
   >>>>>>>>>When I was hunting that day I would take it out of the closet and   
   >>>>>>>>>carry it downstairs.     My rabbit dog would go nuts until we left the   
   >>>>>>>>>house together, me wearing the jacket.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>The jacket was a signal.  Animals respond to signals.   
   >>>>>>>Dr. Pavlov demonstrated that over 100 years ago.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>That isn't the same thing as anticipation.  If you tell   
   >>>>>>>your dog today you're going to go rabbit hunting   
   >>>>>>>tomorrow, the dog will stare at you stupidly.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   That's a different thing Goo,   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Stop using baby talk, Fuckwit.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>It isn't a different thing.  A human WILL anticipate   
   >>>>>going rabbit hunting after being told he's going to be   
   >>>>>taken rabbit hunting the next day.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    That's only if he can understand English.   
   >>>   
   >>>No.  A Chinese or French or Brazilian parent might tell   
   >>>his son the same thing.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>     And in most cases the kid wouldn't care any more   
   >> about it than their dog would if they told the dog instead,   
   >> because neither of them understand English in most cases.   
   >   
   >You are SO unintentionally funny, Fuckwit!   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>Dog's can't.   
   >>>   
   >>>DOGS, not "dog's", you illiterate fuck.   
   >>>   
   >>>Dogs can't anticipate.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>     Yes they can.   
   >   
   >They cannot.  They lack the mental ability to form the   
   >thoughts that comprise anticipation.   
      
       Obviously they can form thoughts that comprise anticipation,   
   otherwise no dog could think to bring his leash to his master   
   in hopes of going for a walk. But since we have already agreed   
   you are too stupid to understand that, why do you keep on trying   
   to pretend to discuss it?   
      
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