XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, rec.pets.dogs.health, misc.rural   
      
   On Sun, 03 Jul 2005 21:26:25 GMT, Rudy Canoza  wrote:   
      
   >You don't know what they're aware of.  They certainly   
   >are aware of OTHERS of their kind being killed, right   
   >before their eyes;   
      
       No they're not Goo. How could they possibly know   
   what death is? Answer: they can't and don't.   
      
   >so why wouldn't they anticipate that   
   >it's going to happen to them?   
      
       Because they don't know what death is, much less   
   that they are going to die. Even though it's very easy   
   to understand it's just too much for you Goober, so   
   you really should just quit trying to discuss it.   
      
   >Answer:  because they cannot antitipate AT ALL.   
      
       That's a lie.   
      
   >They   
   >can respond to signals, but that's an unconscious   
   >response.   
      
       No Goo.   
      
   >It is not anticipation.  Anticipation is a   
   >conscious response based on understanding.   
   >Understanding of that sort requires language;   
      
       That's a lie. It doesn't even require the ability to   
   hear.   
      
   >a boy   
   >cannot anticipate that his father is going to take him   
   >hunting or to the baseball game unless he can   
   >UNDERSTAND, linguistically and conceptually, what his   
   >father has told him.   
   >   
   >Disappointment occurs BECAUSE an an anticipation or   
   >expectation wasn't met.  Anticipation requires   
   >langugage.   
      
       That's a lie.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)