XPost: alt.cats, alt.pets.cats, rec.pets.cats.health+behav   
   XPost: rec.pets.dogs.behavior   
   From: plinnane3REMOVE@NOSPAMyahoo.com   
      
   AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory@HushMail.Com wrote:   
   > HOWEDY rpl,   
   > rpl wrote:   
   >>   
   >   
   > We was talkin about animal abuse and bonding, rpl.   
   >>please keep it in the dog groups, thanks.   
   > It's all the same same, rpl. We got animal   
   > abusers in all the groups pertaining to dogs   
   > kats kids birdies ferrets, it's all the same.   
      
   I don't think it is; there would probably be different abusage patterns   
   for different animal and owner types.   
      
   The notion that puppies in the same litter shouldn't be homed together   
   may be valid for dogs but works fine and is even recommended by/for   
   cats/cat owners; reason being you don't want the cat in your face 24/7   
   and any "loss of respect" is unnoticeable given the general nature of   
   cats.  Dog owners generally want their dogs to "do that"; cat owners   
   generally want their cats to "stop doing that".   
      
   Regarding the snippet you continually post regarding me,  I would like   
   to add to the first paragraph "if you're so inclined, miaowing like a   
   cat in extreme distress may cause the cat to let go".  Apart from that   
   the post works (though I'll grant just barely) within the context of the   
   original thread and with the snipped part included.   
      
   Note that when I say "that I think is a good reason" I'm trying to   
   determine if the cat's sane.   
      
   The second paragraph is an effective way to *avoid* being attacked by   
   making a preemptive pretend-strike to put the cat in defensive mode;   
   I'm pretty sure I don't imply following through by actually attempting   
   to injure the cat and of course you have to let the cat win the play   
   fight that you started.  (I should also confess to a brain-typo; by   
   "noogie" I mean rub the *palm* of your hand back and forth over the   
   cat's head which annoys the hell out of them)   
      
   I don't see any alternative to that.  Do you ?   
      
   (written in a manner that I can read;  I wouldn't expect anybody to read   
   posts where I refer to myself in the third person and I extend that   
   courtesy to others).   
      
   I don't imagine that's particularly valid in a dog group; if a pitbull   
   latches onto your arm with intent you have more immediate problems than   
   pet training. (Likewise if a cat somehow gets set to "autoshred")   
      
      
   pat   
      
   PS: my definition of "troll" includes people that make their posts   
   difficult to read on purpose.   
      
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   >>pat   
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   >   
   > Here's you, ya feeble weasel:   
   >   
   > From: rpl    
   > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:29:31 -0400   
   > Subject: Re: Ferocious, Biting, Ravage, Pain-Inflicting Cat   
   >   
   > Any grown cat that draws blood from me (on purpose)   
   > had better have a damn good reason (that *I* agree   
   > with) or gets a smack in the head.   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   > As far as rough play is concerned... attack first.   
   > Give kitty the "I'm Going To Eat You!!! routine"   
   > which gives him plenty of time to figure out which   
   > way to run when you lunge.  When he looks to be in   
   > an uninvited "attack mode" snap your hand out and   
   > give him a noogie.   
   >   
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   >   
   > AnyWON who'd hit a kitty kat to teach it MANNERS   
   > is a coward or a mental case. Take your pick.   
   >   
   > The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{#); ~ } >   
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