XPost: rec.pets.dogs.behavior   
   From: debragriffin@cox.net   
      
   my two poodles not only reconize themselves, but they are a bit vain, when   
   they come home from the groomers, they RUN tomy bedroom to look in the   
   mirror. truth   
   "bizby40"  wrote in message   
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   >  wrote in message news:0utoh1hvc5h1oagm7seah2tgg0g86vebu4@4ax.com...   
   >>    Question: Has anyone ever managed to get a dog   
   >> to understand that it can see its reflection in a mirror,   
   >> and if so, did it appear to experience a great revelation   
   >> about its own existence at the instant it learned to do so?   
   >   
   > My puppy discovered the mirror today, and showed   
   > great interest in the other puppy in there.  My experience   
   > has been that my dogs lose interest in mirrors pretty   
   > quickly.  Whether they do so because they realize   
   > it's their own reflection, because the other dog never   
   > comes out of the mirror, or because the other dog   
   > has no smell is anybody's guess.  I've never seen   
   > one have an "Aha!" moment about it though.   
   >   
   > As for dog's having a sense of self, I would agree with   
   > that.  They recognize other dogs and people as   
   > individuals, and I don't think they'd do that unless they   
   > were themselves individuals.   
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   > Bizby   
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