XPost: rec.pets.dogs.health, alt.med.veterinary, alt.animals.dog   
   XPost: rec.pets.dogs.behavior   
   From: TheAmazingPuppyWizard@Mail.Com   
      
   HOWEDY david,   
      
   "David Sherman" wrote in message   
   news:BF61593B.1204%possible20@possible20.org...   
   > "Rocky" <2dogs@rocky-dog.com> wrote:   
   >   
   >> I think that you answered your own question: she's 2 years old.   
   >> This is about the age that many dogs come into their own and   
   >> start testing their limits.   
      
   THAT'S INSANE, david.   
      
   >> It's really good that you're watching what goes in and what   
   >> comes out of your dog.   
   >   
   > Thanks, Rocky.   
      
   Rocky's the DOG. matty is the LYING DOG ABUSING PUNK THUG   
   COWARD ACTIVE ACUTE LONG TERM INCURABLE MENTAL   
   CASE, david.   
      
   > True, her behavior has changed slightly since she turned two.   
      
   BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAAA!!!   
      
   > But this was a really radical departure which is why it threw me for a   
   > loop.   
      
   At two years old ABUSED DOGS tend to TURN on their ABUSERS.   
   Same same happens at 9 months and 5 years, the DEVELOPMENTAL   
   STAGES described by Scott & Fuller.   
      
   > I live in a big city, so I have to be vigilant about what interests her in   
   > the gutter. Sure you have to watch out for chicken bones and ribs.   
      
   Your dog is HYPERACTIVE because you "CORRECT" her   
   for tryin to pick up STUFF. That's what causes the "sniffin".   
      
   We've been through all this pryor with other posters. It takes   
   MINUTES to TRAIN ANY DOG not to EAT CRAP from   
   the ground, david, but you GOTTA KNOW HOWE. Jerkin   
   and chokin and THREATENING the dog not to DO STUFF   
   is HOWE COME they DO IT FASTER than you can PUNISH   
   them, david.   
      
   ALL temperament and behavior problems are CAUSED BY   
   MISHANDLING as taught by professional dog trainers and   
   university trained behaviorists.   
      
   > But most troubling is syringes, used condoms and discarded latex   
   > gloves (there are several hospitals near by - I hope that's what they're   
   > doing all over the street!)   
      
   As with ALL behavior "PROBLEMS", the more DANGERHOWES   
   they ARE the MORE YOU TRY TO HURT and INTIMIDATE   
   your dog to NOT DO THEM consequently TEACHING the dog   
   to TRY TO DO IT FASTER than you can PUNISH HIM, david.   
      
   THAT'S HOWE COME PRAISE WORKS and PUNISHEMNT DON'T.   
      
   We've DISCUSSED ALL THAT PRYOR with LeeCharlesKelley   
   and Disciple Paulie. It's the same same as chasin squirrels, david.   
      
   > As for what comes out - when you live in a city with a "pooper scooper"   
   > law, you have no choice but be interested. I have to handle every poop   
   > she makes. You get to know your dog's innards pretty well!   
      
   That's more than I needed to know, david. At least you're in your element.   
      
   > --and--   
   >   
   > "ZPL" wrote:   
   >   
   >> We had our first cool weather front move in today - the dogs   
   >> are going NUTS! Been very windy as well. To much for even   
   >> the old ones to contain themselves.   
      
   Dogs LOVE the change of seasons.   
      
   > Thanks guys.   
      
   For WHAAAT??? They been BLOWIN SMOKE up your arse, david.   
      
   > I feel a little better.   
      
   BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHHAHAHAA!!!!   
      
   > She seems a little mellower today.   
      
   Could be you dog is SICK, david.   
      
   > I called the vet yesterday and it didn't seem to set off   
   > any alarm bells with her.   
      
   I'm AMAZED your vet didn't have you come in for a full   
   work up and a referral to the neurologist and endocrinologist.   
      
   > So, I'll wait it out.   
      
   You'll be waitin till HEEL FREEZES OVER, david.   
      
   > This is my first season change with her as an adult. Last year at   
   > a year old, she still dealt with everything with puppy exuberance.   
      
   You mean she was HYPERACTIVE david.   
      
   > So this is a first for me in a way.   
      
   NOT for The Amazing Puppy Wizard, david.   
      
   DOGS ONLY RESPOND IN PREDICTABLE NORMAL   
   NATURAL INNATE INSTINCTIVE REFLEXIEVE WAYS   
   to situations and circumstances of their environment we create   
   for them, david.   
      
   > Thanks for taking the time to get back to me.   
      
   BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAA!!!   
      
   HOWEDY matty,   
   "Rocky" <2...@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message   
   news:Fri96DFD05113A7Caustralianshepherdca@rocky-dog.com...   
      
      
   > David Sherman said in   
   > rec.pets.dogs.health:   
      
   >> I'm getting to my wits end.   
      
      
      
   david's been readin HOWER forums for a very long time.   
      
      
   >> She has been impossible to walk with all the pulling and sniffing,   
      
      
   She PULLS and SNIFFS because she's HOWETA   
   CON-TROLL because david JERKS and CHOKES her.   
      
      
   >> and I'm starting to get angry at her,   
      
      
   Naaah? For bein SICK???   
      
      
   >> which I'm sure isn't helping the situation.   
      
      
   She's GOTTA BE SICK otherWIZE she's HYPERACTIVE   
   from BEIN ABUSED, like your dogs, matty.   
      
      
   > I think that you answered your own question: she's 2 years old.   
      
      
   Hunh???   
      
      
   > This is about the age that many dogs come into their   
   > own and start testing their limits.   
      
      
   BWEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHHAHAHAA!!!   
      
   THAT'S INSANE, matty. At 2 years the dog is   
   MATURE and SETTLES DHOWEN.   
      
      
      
   > It's really good that you're watching what goes   
   > in and what comes out of your dog.   
      
      
   IF david had "BEEN WATCHING" he WOULDN'T SUSPECT   
   she MAYBE ATE SUMPTHIN at the park he takes her to for   
   an HOWER of EXXXCESSIVE EXXXORCISE to FORCE   
   CON-TROLL of her HYPERACTIVE BEHAVIOR.   
      
      
   > --   
   > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.   
      
      
   From: Rocky (mbon...@sunada.com)   
   Subject: Re: Leg Humper   
   Date: 1999/09/14   
      
   Bioso...@aol.com (Jerry Howe) wrote in   
   <37D698CF.405B0...@bellsouth.net>:   
      
      
      
   >By "sticking your knee up," I can only presume that you are   
   >suggesting that the people knee the dog in the chest. If   
   >that's what you meant, just say it, instead of beating around   
   >the bush to avoid criticism from people like me. That kind of   
   >crap has got to stop, and that's why I'm here, to help wean   
   >you guys off of the abuse and into the proper methods of   
   >dealing with behavior problems.   
      
      
   Jerry, I was appreciating your explanation   
   up until this last paragraph.   
      
   Why did you blow it?   
      
      
   --Matt   
      
      
      
   "Rocky" <> wrote in message   
      
      
   news:Xns92FEEC097E4AAaustralianshepherdca@130.133.1.4...   
      
    > Linda wrote in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:   
      
      
    > > When you compare using sound and   
    > > praise to solve a problem with using   
    > > shock collars, hanging, and punishment   
    > > how can you criticize the use of sound?   
      
      
    > There's nothing more to be said, then.   
    > You've made up your mind.   
      
      
    > But you've impressed me by mentioning   
    > that you're a professor with 30 years of   
    > experience.   
      
      
    > So, can you cite some examples of   
    > people recommending "shock collars,   
    > hanging, and punishment"?   
    > --   
    > --Matt. Rocky's a Dog.   
      
      
   BWWWAWHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!   
      
      
      
   > > > Jerome Bigge writes:   
   > > > I do know that hitting, hurting your dog will often   
   > > > make the dog either aggressive or a fear biter,   
   > > > neither of which we want to do.   
      
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