XPost: alt.parenting.spanking, misc.kids, alt.parenting.solutions   
   XPost: rec.pets.dogs.behavior   
   From: doan@usc.edu   
      
   On Fri, 28 Oct 2005, Carlson LaVonne wrote:   
      
   >   
   >   
   > pohaku.kane@gmail.com wrote:   
   > > AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory@HushMail.Com wrote:   
   > >   
   > >>HOWEDY pokahu.kane,   
   > >>   
   > >>pohaku.kane@gmail.com wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>>AnimalBehaviorForensicSciencesResearchLaboratory@HushMail.Com wrote:   
   > >>>...........poof!.............   
   > >>>   
   > >>>So much for babbling nitwittery from trolls.   
   > >>   
   > >>Seems we're both on the same side of the argument.   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > "Side?" What "side" would you be referring to?   
   > >   
   > > Animal training and child rearing are quite dissimilar.   
   >   
   > Yet anyone who has trained animals knows that hitting and hurting the   
   > animal, or causing fear in the animal is the least effective way to gain   
   > compliance.  Both dogs and children want to please.  Both dogs and   
   > children are capable of learning appropriate behavior.  Both dogs and   
   > children learn appropriate behavior when they are trained or taught with   
   > kindness, respect, and trust.   
   > >   
   > > And they should be.   
   > >   
   > > The long term outcome for a puppy and a child are very different.   
   >   
   > The long term outcome for both puppies and children are both different   
   > and similar.  For children, the long term outcome is to become a happy,   
   > healthy, kind, conscientious member of society.  For the puppy, we want   
   > the puppy to become a kind, confident, respectful dog.   
   >   
   > The child, of course, will reach a much higher level of functioning and   
   > moral reasoning than will the puppy, provided the child has appropriate   
   > parenting.   
   >   
   Did you have "appropriate" parenting, LaVonne? ;-)   
      
   Doan   
      
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