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|    allygat0r07 to All    |
|    Breed Discrimination - ugh. FURIOUS.    |
|    10 Nov 05 18:28:49    |
      From: allygat0r07.1yap8l@dogbanter.com              Hey all,              I've posted here a few times (actually, the breed forum) about what       kind of dog I should get (only an idea, I actually want a mixed breed       from a shelter) and FINALLY realized that I really really want a       German Shepherd mix. It took me forever to find a decent apartment       that suited my other needs as well as allows dogs (up to 100 pounds)       and I was ecstatic until I read the pet policy. There are some       restricted breeds, including Rottweilers, Doberman Pinschers, German       Shepherds, Chow chows, Pit bulls, and Wolf-hybrids.              Naturally, when you can't have something, you want it more. But       still, I have a HUGE HUGE HUGE issue with that for many reasons.       Firstly, because I want a German Shepherd. Second, because that breed       seems particularly out of place. Third, anti-breed legislation for an       apartment complex is ridiculous. They should screen resident's       individual dogs instead of going by a pedigree. There are plenty of       mean labradors and poodles, but they wouldn't even blink an eye at       them because they're known as "nice dogs". I love labs, but even they       have the potential to be aggressive and just because a dog is of one       breed does not mean it will act its ascribed standard/OR, in my case,       negative stereotype.              There are PLENTY of other breeds of dog that would be more deserving       of being on the list. Akitas, perhaps? They seem like very naturally       aggressive dogs to me. Perfectly fine in the arms of an experienced       dog owner, but a breed that should not be taken lightly. German       Shepherds are CLEARLY not bad dogs. They're used for so many things.       Police work, seeing eye dogs, etc. etc. Good training is certainly a       must for GSDs, but they aren't automatically aggressive. I don't think       there ARE any bad dogs, but I can understand the hesitancy to allow Pit       Bulls because of the profile of the typical stupid Pit Bull owner. They       can be amazingly wonderful dogs in the right hands, but many people who       seek out Pit Bulls just want a big tough dog that can protect them and       make them look cool.              One of my huge problems is the hypocrisy of the situation. They go by a       photograph. Here's my case in point: two lab/german shepherd mixes. One       resembles a lab, the other resembles a german shepherd. The       so-called-"lab" is completely aggressive and ill-trained and generally       unsuited for an apartment community, while the "german shepherd" (mix)       has been trained and is as sweet and docile as they come. Which dog       will be allowed? The one that resembles a lab, despite its viscious       behavior. This is NOT fair!       One of their main reasons is that they don't want to make an exception       once and have other residents see my German Shepherd mix and complain       about wanting their own. But I have agreed to show documentation of       extensive obedience classes and pay an extra monthly fee, which most       people aren't willing to do.              LASTLY, my main technical issue with the policy is that it does NOT       explicitly say no mixes containing any of the aforementioned restricted       breeds. That's where I could get them. They want to follow policy, fine.       What if my dog is clearly a mutt? They should be more specific if they       don't want to be nitpicked apart by anal people like myself who are       stubborn and want what they want, including the breed of dog that       would be perfect for their personality.              I also brought up the fact that many people assume german shepherd       when they see black and tan on a dog, and what if the dog had in fact,       NO german shepherd in it. They said that if the animal shelter/source       of the animal could verify there was no german shepherd (or whatever)       in the breed, they would accept it. This is SO subjective and       ridiculous! The subject aside, you have to agree that good laws are not       practiced on a sliding scale! How does deliberation go? "Hmm, well this       dog is clearly a poodle but...wait...there's some tan on it's muzzle       and paws. Looks like it might be German Shepherd to me! REJECTED."       Can't I just get the shelter to lie and say it's a Belgian Malinois       mix?              My moot but slightly worth mentioning additional points: I will barely       be there (neither will my dog...WE will be gone a lot of the time, and       if we're at home, we'll be INSIDE.) I am getting a PUPPY, by the time I       move out (August of 2007), the dog will still be a puppy. Most       aggression doesn't manifest until later.              I called the office today and they forwarded me to the landlord of my       community, who was out of office for the day. I left a lengthy message       and asked for him to call me back. Do you think I have much of a case?       I know it's at the landlord's discretion and I should just "accept       policy", but why should I have to abide by such a stupid rule? The       inconsistencies are too clear for me to just sit back and accept the       fact that I can't get the breed of dog that I want. I'm sure there are       many amazing dogs that would be perfect for me and contain no german       shepherd, but it's the principle of the matter. I don't want to have to       compromise because the dog is a little too black-and-tan for my       landlord. I am a stubborn girl. I jumped on my bed screaming "I WANT A       DOG" for six months straight before my parents yielded and got me my       first "own dog" when I was 6. Now, almost 15 years later, I'm ready to       raise the stakes and use real evidence against my opposition.              Anything else I should use in my favor? I don't want to be difficult,       but...I'm going to be difficult. I'm paying them thousands of dollars,       shouldn't I get a little something in return?              Ally                     --       allygat0r07              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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