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   The Amazing Puppy Wizard <{) ; - ) to RobDar   
   Re: Do Females Dogs Get Territorial? (1/   
   26 Nov 05 14:21:59   
   
   XPost: rec.pets.dogs.behavior, alt.animals.dog, rec.pets.dogs.health   
   XPost: rec.pets.dogs.rescue   
   From: TheAmazingPuppyWizard@Mail.Com   
      
   HOWEDY robdar,   
      
   "RobDar"  wrote in message   
   news:VDnhf.657$iu2.117@fe14.lga...   
   > Females can exhibit marking behaviors as readily as males. We see it often   
   > in the Hounds.   
      
   You see LOTS of temperament and behavior problems   
   in your abused dogs, don't you:   
      
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   HOWEDY robdar,   
      
      
      
   RobDar wrote:   
   > Let me open by saying I am not inexperienced with dogs...   
      
      
   INDEEDY. IN FACT, you're a PROFESSIONAL DOG ABUSER:   
      
   Northwest Indiana Beagle Rescue (Roberta & Darin Lee)   
      
      
   The only requirement is that the dog has to used to   
   being kept in outdoor kennels without howling like   
   a fool at every leaf that blows or voice it hears.   
      
      
   Contact Darin Lee   
   RobDar's HoundSong Rescue   
   rob...@houndsong.com   
      
      
   From: "RobDar"    
   Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:57:08 -0600   
   Subject: Re: Great Place for Electronic Dog Training Collars   
      
      
   yep...some people hate the collars....and some Beagles NEED a collar!   
      
      
      
   > especially hounds.   
      
      
   Well then, you probably got no need for us or your "behaviorialist":   
      
   From: "RobDar"    
   Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 11:40:58 -0600   
      
      
   Subject: Re: A new dog in the family   
      
      
   Hmmm...   
   I am a believer that so long as the dogs are not making efforts to harm   
   each   
   other that they will work things out on their own. I believe dogs will   
   naturally develope a more functional and beneficial  relationship when   
   they   
   are allowed to do so on their own. Though this is somewhat predicated   
   on the   
   fact that I know a wee bit about certian behaviors/ pack behaviors/ and   
   know   
   what warning signs to look for...and anything I am not sure of, We have   
   a   
   behavioralist just a phone call away.   
      
      
   I guess my advice is...the more you can learn about your dogs behavior   
   the   
   better of you and your dogs will be...but you knew that already.   
      
      
      
   > I have yet to meet a Beagle or a Coonhound I could not get to be a   
   > pleasant and manageable housepet (except for the dog were are about to   
   > discuss that is).   
      
      
   BWEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!   
      
   What's your "behavioralist" got to say, robdar???   
      
      
      
   >  We have trained and managed every manner of issue   
      
      
   You jerk choke and shock innocent defenseless dumb critters.   
      
      
   >  from the badly abused,   
      
      
   You're the abuser, robdar.   
      
      
   > feral dogs, skittish dogs, hunting dogs   
      
      
   A DOG IS A DOG, robdar.   
      
      
   > whom have never spent a day of their life in the house... even a PKC Field   
   > and Bench Champoin  English Coonhound, who was a particularly interesting   
   > challenge...and then there is Tilly.   
      
      
   Sam Corson, Pavlov's Last Student Demonstrated   
   At UofOH Oxford, That Rehabilitation Of Hyperactive   
   Dogs Can Easily And Readily Be Done Using TLC.   
   Tender Loving Care Is At The Root Of The Scientific   
   Management Of Doggys.  <{) ; ~ ) >   
      
      
   > A short history:   
      
      
   THAT'S IRRELEVENT you dog abusing punk thug coward.   
      
      
   > 1. Tilly is an English/ Walker Coonhound mix. 2. Tilly was always a house   
   > pet. 3. She was turned into the shelter, with her brother with whom she   
   > was raised from a pup. The relinguishing family cited allergies, though   
   > further contact with them at a later date shown that it was Rusty, her   
   > brother, was showing signs of agression with the children...and he and   
   > Tilly would fight regularly.   
      
      
   BWEEEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA!!!   
      
   Opposite sex aggression is the MOST UNNATURAL thing in the   
   WHOWEL WILD WORLD for a dog to do, after HOWEsbreakin problems.   
      
      
      
   >  Coincedentaly, Rusty has shown absolutley no signs of aggression in his   
   > new home. In fact he is submissive   
      
      
   Naaah? DO TELL???   
      
      
   > and very well behaved. Very well behaved is how Tilly's previous family   
   > described Tilly...they said Rusty has ALWAYS been the problem child.   
      
      
   FIGGER IT HOWET, dog abuser.   
      
      
   > 4. We had Tilly here for just about a year.   
      
      
   BWEEEEEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAAA!!!   
      
      
   > 5. When our own attempts to manage her proved to be only mildly effective,   
      
      
   IOW, you COULDN'T TRAIN her.   
      
      
   > we took her to a formal obedience class.   
      
      
   Where you jerked and choked IT somemore.   
      
      
   > 6. Her adoptive family has since used "Bark Busters" in home obedience   
   > training.   
      
      
   BWEEEEEAAHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!! grant teeboon of the RAAF   
   was gonna get hisself a "bark buster's" franchise.   
      
      
   >  They to are experienced dog owners.   
      
      
   IOW they KNOW HOWE to HURT and INTIMDIATE their dogs.   
      
      
   > 7. She has been to the vet and had every physical cause for her irratic   
   > behavior we could think of looked into.   
      
      
   THAT'S INSANE.   
      
      
   > The issues:   
      
      
   THAT'S IRRELEVENT.   
      
      
   >         The biggest problem is that there is not one particular behavior   
   > that Tilly is guilty of. The best way to describe her is like a water   
   > balloon...when you squeeze the balloon it bulges somewhere...push that   
   > bulge  in, and it will bulge somewhere else.   
      
      
   NAAAAAH???:   
      
   From: Paul Bousie   
   To: The Puppy Wizard   
   Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:00 AM   
   Subject: Geday.   
      
      
   Hey J,   
      
      
   I see nothings changed on the NG. Still the same   
   old crappy advice and misunderstanding of the   
   only advice worth reading.   
      
      
   The problem with your method J is that I can't   
   answer the questions on the NG no more, people   
   are after a quick fix, they don't want to understand   
   that dog training requires a disiplined method, I'm   
   now really understanding that they are all result   
   orientated, they want the dog to sit, to down, to   
   stay, to come, to stop it's "bad" behaviours, they   
   want to stamp out each anxiety one at a time not   
   realising they create a new one as they deal with   
   the last.   
      
      
   I feel sorry for them, they don't understand, they   
   don't even realise the errors of thier ways and   
   they arn't self thinkers, they follow the majority,   
   after all if everyone says thats the way then it   
   must be. I've finally realised people don't want   
   to learn to train dogs they want a trained dog,   
   they want a little puppet that sits and stays and   
   downs and does all the nice doggy stuff or so   
   they think, then when the dog acts like a dog   
   they come squealing to the NG asking how to   
   stop the dog being a dog.   
      
      
   I have a nice little visulisation of a dogs mind   
   that I think demonstrates the way we approach   
   dog training. Imagine lots of little circles all in a   
   cluster, each one representing a dog anxiety or   
   behaviour ( desied or not), each circle represents   
   something about the dog, all of them create what   
   a dog is.   
      
      
   The traditional way to train a dog is to stamp out   
   the "bad" circles, try to eliminate as many as you   
   can, problem is each one you stamp out another   
   takes it's place (anxiety circles can't be destroyed   
   they just change), obviously it's a futile exercise,   
   but thats the traditional way.   
      
      
   Now imagine a big circle that completely surrounds   
   all the small circles, this big circle is the whole dog,   
   that's what we get hold of with all the little circles   
      
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