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   From: TheAmazingPuppyWizard@Mail.Com   
      
   HOWEDY mary you freakin lyin dog abusing mental case,   
      
   "Mary Healey"  wrote in message   
   news:Xns971D5D7F69774amesnatlzooyahoocom@130.133.1.4...   
   > "RhodesianRidgebacksRule"  wrote in   
   > news:438be23b$0$18203$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au:   
   >   
   >> I guess Matt that for me submission is an emotive term. I dont like   
   >> meekness- I want a confident obedient dog. I think its possible.   
   >   
   > For your dog to obey you, it must submit (there's that WORD again) to your   
   > authority, yes?  Your dog must trust your leadership, your judgement, your   
   > ability to cope, even when her own instincts or experience is telling her   
   > something else.  That's submission.   
      
   Well then, HOWE COME you can't train your own dogs, mary?   
      
   > Confident, obedient dogs have confident human leaders.  Human leaders who   
   > have clear, unambiguous rules, who demonstrate trustworthiness even when   
   > subjecting their dog to the numerous small indignities responsible dog   
   > owners inflict on their companions (toenail trims, ear inspections, tick   
   > check, wearing funny hats, etc.)   
      
   Oh? You mean LIKE THIS, mary?:   
      
   From: Mary Healey    
   Date: 13 Jul 2005 17:48:39 GMT   
   Subject: Re: Help w/Joe Joe!!!!   
      
   "Janet Puistonen"  wrote:   
   > shelly wrote:   
      
   >> lots of dogs pull on lead and lots of owners are   
   >> perfectly willing to put up with it.   
      
   > Most people in this forum are too interested in   
   > training to put up with it.   
      
   You've taken a poll?   
      
   My dogs might pull on lead when walked as a group, during   
   the first couple of blocks.  Those very specific circumstances.   
      
   I live with it.   
      
   (I am, however, working to eliminate the shrieking, spinning,   
   leash-grabbing, dervish-dance they do when they first see the   
   leashes.  It's going to be a long summer.)   
      
   > You think counter surfing and raiding the trash are acceptable   
   > behaviors? I'm surprised. I would think that for safety reasons   
   > alone you wouldn't accept them.   
      
   While I don't think they're acceptable behaviors, I've found   
   it a lot easier to retrain myself than multiple dogs when I'm   
   not directly supervising them.  I don't leave anything on the   
   counters and the trash is out of their reach.  Problem solved.   
      
   But they'll still counter surf and raid the trash if given   
   the opportunity.   
      
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