XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.sci.sociology, alt.stupidity   
      
   On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:15:50 GMT, "Dutch"  wrote:   
      
   >The difference between humans and other species is that we temper   
   >every act by considering how it impacts others.   
      
   "What am I denying that animal by refusing to give it this   
   "consideration" that I am failing to give?" - Dutch   
      
   >That is just one of a lengthy list of major differences between humans and   
   >other animals.   
      
   "I decline to "consider" the lives of animals" - Dutch   
      
   "It is illogical and inadmissible to "consider" the lives   
   (existence) of livestock, or of any other creature" - Dutch   
      
   ""WIldlife, like livestock, happen to be living creatures,   
   their lives per se are not relevant to this issue." - Dutch   
   . . .   
      
   >I always thought that we agreed to a certain degree on how animals ought to   
   >be treated.   
      
   "What's important is the medium/long term implications,   
   that is no more animals "in bondage" to humans. THAT'S   
   the important issue to be debated" - Dutch   
      
   "It's wrong to exploit animals by breeding, confining and   
   killing them." - Dutch   
      
   "Life does not justify death" - Dutch   
      
   "abstaining from meat saves future animals from life" - Dutch   
      
   "you should become a vegan. I've been saying that to you   
   for years." - Dutch   
      
   "Taking moral credit for a livestock animal's very existence   
   is analagous to taking moral credit for the life of a daughter   
   you sell onto the streets." - Dutch   
      
   "I am an animal rights believer." - Dutch   
      
   "we must have at least the same right as every animal does,   
   which is to seek to compete successfully, sustain ourselves   
   and thrive." - Dutch   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)