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   „ UltraMan „ to Bo Raxo   
   Re: __ Man mauled to death at Ving Rhame   
   04 Aug 07 14:27:43   
   
   XPost: alt.gossip.celebrities, alt.law-enforcement, alt.pets.dogs   
   XPost: alt.true-crime   
   From: ultra@man.jp   
      
   Bo Raxo wrote:   
   > On Aug 4, 1:36 am, "„ UltraMan „"  wrote:   
   >> comadrejo wrote:   
   >>> In article <1186191445.929295.111...@x40g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,   
   >>> Bo Raxo  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> On Aug 3, 6:31 pm, Red  wrote:   
   >>>>> On Aug 3, 7:28?pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>>> Man mauled to death at Ving Rhames' home   
   >>   
   >>>>>>   a.. Dogs kill man at Ving Rhames' L.A. house   
   >>   
   >>>>>>   b.. Man was caretaker at house   
   >>   
   >>>>>>   c.. Rhames, known for "Mission: Impossible," not at home when   
   >>>>>>   attack occurred   
   >>>>>> LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Dogs apparently belonging to   
   >>>>>> "Mission:   
   >>>>>> Impossible" star Ving Rhames attacked and killed a caretaker at   
   >>>>>> the actor's Los   
   >>>>>> Angeles home Friday, police said.   
   >>   
   >>>>>> The caretaker, who was not immediately identified by name, was   
   >>>>>> found dead in   
   >>>>>> front of Rhames' gated home in an expensive Brentwood   
   >>>>>> neighborhood, Los Angeles   
   >>>>>> police spokeswoman Sandra Gonzalez said.   
   >>   
   >>>>>> "This morning at 7:15 a.m. we got a call of a dead body" at   
   >>>>>> Rhames' home, Gonzalez said. "We found the body of a male,   
   >>>>>> approximately 40 years old, on the   
   >>>>>> front lawn, who had been mauled by dogs."   
   >>   
   >>>>>> She said the caretaker was pronounced dead at the scene and there   
   >>>>>> was no one   
   >>>>>> else around when officers arrived.   
   >>   
   >>>>>> Four dogs, at least two of them mastiffs, were taken away by   
   >>>>>> animal control   
   >>>>>> officers. It was not immediately clear who had called police, or   
   >>>>>> how many dogs   
   >>>>>> had mauled the caretaker, who had worked for Rhames for two   
   >>>>>> years.   
   >>   
   >>>>>> She said Rhames, known for starring in "Pulp Fiction" and   
   >>>>>> alongside Tom Cruise   
   >>>>>> in all three "Mission: Impossible" movies, was not home when   
   >>>>>> officers arrived.   
   >>   
   >>>>>> Representatives for the 46-year-old actor, who according to news   
   >>>>>> reports was out   
   >>>>>> of the country shooting a movie, had no immediate comment.   
   >>   
   >>>>>> Rhames has a long list of film and television credits and won a   
   >>>>>> Golden Globe for   
   >>>>>> starring as Don King in a 1997 TV movie about the flamboyant   
   >>>>>> boxing promoter. He   
   >>>>>> was nominated for an Emmy for the same role.   
   >>   
   >>>>>> Gonzalez said an investigation by Los Angeles police detectives   
   >>>>>> was under way   
   >>>>>> and that no further details were immediately available.   
   >>   
   >>>>> Hopefully the man's family will sue Rhames and take all his money.   
   >>   
   >>>> Most homeowners policies will cover that kind of loss.  I have no   
   >>>> idea what his house looks like, but I'll guess it's worth several   
   >>>> million dollars and thus his policy limits will be adequate to   
   >>>> cover whatever amount is negotiated.  Typically these are based on   
   >>>> future earnings (with an extra percentage tacked on for   
   >>>> pain/suffering/loss of consortium.etc.) and you're looking at a   
   >>>> victim who is already halfway through his working life and   
   >>>> probably didn't earn that much per   
   >>>> year.   
   >>   
   >>>> Bottom line;  about the only cost to Rhames will be flowers and a   
   >>>> card.   
   >>   
   >>>  My guess also, from the Insurance Company's standpoint, how he died   
   >>> could limit the liability payout.   
   >>   
   >> Do tell ?   
   >>   
   >>> If the caretaker died from a heart attack,   
   >>   
   >> No, he died from a dog attack.   
   >   
   > His death certificate might list that as a secondary or tertiary cause   
   > of death, but the primary cause of death will be something like blood   
   > loss, heart failure, traumatic head injury, whatever primary system   
   > failure caused his direct expiration.   
      
   ... due to dog attack.   
      
   Got it?   
      
   >   
   >>   
   >>> the Insurance company may limit the payment to the caretaker   
   >>> benefactors, or if it went to trial, homeowner's insurance liability   
   >>> could be limited...   
   >>   
   >> Why ?   
   >   
   > Because they can argue that if a heart condition killed him, it would   
   > have killed him before long anyway.   
      
   Look up "bad faith".   
      
   > It's a great tactic for an attorney facing a case where his or her client is   
   > going to lose: find   
   > an argument that the actual losses should be much smaller, and either   
   > hope the jury splits the difference or use it as leverage to negotiate   
   > a lower settlement.   
      
   See above. Then look up punitive damages associated with   
   such specious tactics.   
      
   > I'm not an attorney,   
      
   Clearly.   
      
   > but business is business,   
   > you look for something to anchor an opposite end position and   
   > negotiate the best middle ground deal you can get.   
      
   If you anchor your position on a lie or deceit, the courts and juries tend   
   to come down exponentially hard upon you when you lose.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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