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   From: lojbab@lojban.org   
      
   Rupert  wrote:   
   >There are plenty of respectable arguments for ethical vegetarianism.   
      
   All based on assumptions that are peculiar to the ethical vegetarian,   
   and hence utterly meaningless to all the rest of us that reject those   
   assumptions.   
      
   >You have given no evidence that you are aware of what they are.   
      
   There are meaningless to me, so I have tuned them out.   
      
   It's very interesting that you can dismiss a belief system purely on   
   >the grounds that it is "ideological". What's your definition of an   
   >ideology?   
      
   The inherently flawed idea that a group of assumptions is Truth and   
   that they can be systematically applied to real life.  This usually   
   ends up involving the redefinition of words from the meaning used by   
   everyone else to some peculiar form that is a nice inside-joke for the   
   True Believers.   
      
   The redefinition of "murder" to include animals is one such   
   redefinition, and it begs the question of why killing animals is   
   murder, but not killing vegetables?  Hence the song I posted.   
      
   >I apologize if your newsgroups have been polluted with a topic you   
   >don't regard as worthy of serious consideration. It was David Harrison   
   >who did that, for reasons best known to himself, not the ethical   
   >vegetarians.   
      
   No apology is necessary. One merely had to look at the header lists to   
   see that it wasn't serious discussion.   
      
   lojbab   
      
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