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HOWEDY tommy sorenson aka not so handsome,
not so happy, not so gentle, not so manly, jackass,
not even morrison aka joey finnochiarrio aka howie
lipshitz aka BIG DADDY aka DOGMAN a.k.a.
PUSSYMAN, you pathetic miserable stinkin
anonymHOWES malignant lyin dog child an
spHOWES abusing punk thug coward active
accute chronic life long incurable mental case
and paranoid homophobe, misogynist, puppy
miller, shock collar salesman FRAUD and
SCAM ARTIST,
"Handsome "Jack" Morrison" wrote in message
news:8n2u345d6namp6hf0pvorvvliaothbtb08@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:48:56 GMT, "\(the\)duckster"
> wrote:
>
>>"Handsome "Jack" Morrison" wrote in
>>message
>>news:vptt341171qo83l6lj3fj05pui737hgref@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 29 May 2008 19:25:46 +0100, Phil Odox
>>> wrote:
>
>>> I mean, Phil, if you can't pick up your own dog,
>>> what kind of relationship is that?
>>
>> Unfortunately, you didn't see the pictures of great big
>> Phil rolling around the garden with this sprite of a dog.
>
> Yup, I wouldn't be surprised.
>
> Phil's worried about stuff that he shouldn't be worried about.
>
>>I bet though if you asked him, he'd
>>be happy to email them to you.
>
> Better yet, maybe he'll post them on a photo-hosting site (Flickr,
> Google Web Album, etc.), and then we can all see them.
>
>>And his azaleas are beautiful as well.
>>Wish the hell I could get things like that to grow.
>
> Let's see how beautiful they look in, say, 12 months, eh?
>
> Heh.
Heh, heh, yourself, tommy:
tommy sez:
"It Can Be Really Funny To Watch Shove His Nose
Into The Water; Hold Him There Till He Is Sure He's
Drowning "I LOVE This One. It's VERY Effective,
It Absolutely Doesn't Interfere In Your Relationship
With Your Dog, And Is EASY And QUICK"
This same tactic is taught by cindymooreon on her
"faq" page on k9web, lying "I LOVE KOEHLER"
lynn at their Bay Area GSD shelters, and lying frosty
dahl, marquis de "read koehler for content" shaw...,
professor "scruff shake" dermer, professora "chin
chuck absolutely doesn't mean slap" gingold, ron
hardin, ed williams of PET LOSS dot CON and
much, much moore of your newfHOWEN pathetic
miserable stinkin lyin animal murderin punk thug
coward mental case PALS RIGHT HERE <{}: ~ ) >
From: Dogman (dog...@i1.net)
Date: 1997/11/01
On a cold day in Hell, 31 Oct 1997 23:50:55 GMT, dogps...@aol.com (Dogpsych)
wrote:
[...]
>Koehler's Usefulness: Digging
> If you come home and find your dog has dug a hole, fill the hole
> brimful of water. With the training collar and leash, bring the dog
> to the hole and shove his nose into the water; hold him there until
> he is sure he's drowning. If your dog is of any size, you may get all
> of the action of a cowboy bull-dogging a steer.
>
> Stay with it. I've had elderly ladies who'd had their fill of ruined
> flower beds dunk some mighty big dogs. A great many dogs will
> associate this horrible experience with the hole they dug.
>
> It is not necessary to *catch the dog in the act* in any of the
> above instances of correction. Be consistent in your corrections
> and your dog will come to find the smell of freshly dug earth
> quite repugnant.
I LOVE this one. It's VERY effective, it absolutely doesn't interfere
in your relationship with your dog, and is EASY and QUICK to do.
And it can be really funny to watch. Yes, there are other methods that
work, for example the stake-in-the- ground method that Koehler also
describes, balloons in the water, etc.
The point here is that you have a CHOICE. If your flowers, yard,
etc., are no big deal to you, don't even worry about it. Live with
the destruction, give him an area of his own to "destroy," etc.
Whatever. But if you're one of those people who spends a lot of time
and MONEY on your landscaping and grounds, give it a try. It works!
No, there is no reason for you to "drown" your dog! Hyperbole is just
that. Hyperbole! Don't let it cloud your common sense.
Usually within seconds, the dog will start to struggle. That's what
you want him to do: THINK he is about to drown, not actually drown.
Hold him there for another few seconds and then release him. And I've
never known of a dog to even attempt to bite during this procedure.
Normally they'll just shake it off and start AVOIDING ANY HOLES --
almost immediately.
Now folks, what's the worst thing that happened to this dog? Was it
injured in any way? Absolutely not. Was he startled? Absolutely.
That's what AVERSIVES are supposed to do. This procedure works
in the same way that snake-proofing a dog with an electronic collar
works. Or to prevent dogs from chasing deer, etc. And if you think
you can make your dog, say, avoid POISONOUS snakes using only
positive reinforce, I've got some beach-front property in Kansas I can
sell you cheap.
Are flowers and backyards a matter of life and death. Probably not --
unless the dog ends up at the vet's because of it. But SOME people,
unable to otherwise "cure" this hole-digging, will simply take their
dog to the vet's to be euthanized. Don't believe that? Go down to
your shelter or rescue group and ASK them the reasons that people turn
in dogs. Maybe YOU wouldn't do it, but a lot of folks would. There
aren't approximately 5 million dogs put to death each year (in the US
alone) for no reason, are there?
So folks, yes...YOU decide for yourself. If this seems "cruel" to
you, just don't do it. But don't think about getting an abortion,
either.
Who is cruel to a dog, is more cruel thereby to his own soul.
--Will Judy
Whosoever refuses to punish a dog for behavior that can get
it KILLED has no heart whatsoever and will go straight to hell.
--Dogman
"So grab the line and give him about 5 minutes of the hardest tanning
you can administer. Use a belt heavy enough to make him really feel
your efforts."
--William Koehler
--------------------
Here's some CLASSICAL CONditioning:
"HOW TO STOP DIGGING!
from the koehler Method of Dog Training:
"Another correction, found to be very effective and easier
to administer, is the policy of putting a screw-in stake in
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