XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, alt.agriculture, sci.agriculture   
   XPost: alt.cats   
      
   On Sun, 08 May 2011 15:07:32 -0700, Goo lied:   
      
   >On Sun, 08 May 2011 16:08:27 -0700, dh@. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Thu, 05 May 2011 13:33:02 -0700, Goo lied blatantly:   
   >>   
   >>>On Thu, 05 May 2011 16:02:04 -0700, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Wed, 04 May 2011 13:29:07 -0700, Goo wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>On Wed, 04 May 2011 15:52:58 -0700, dh@. wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>On Tue, 03 May 2011 10:52:26 -0700, Goo lied:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>You are not promoting animal welfare   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>Goober I encourage people to appreciate when AW is successful, and you   
   oppose   
   >>>>>>having appreciation and have manically been opposing it for over a decade   
   >>>>>>because and only because having appreciation works against elimination.   
   Did you   
   >>>>>>somehow forget about that all of a sudden, Goob?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>No.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>    Then it should be clear to you that I encourage decent AW and you   
   argue in   
   >>>>favor of elimination instead, and part of the way you do that is by   
   maniacally   
   >>>>opposing appreciation for AW successfully providing lives of positive   
   value for   
   >>>>millions of livestock animals.   
   >>>   
   >>>You do not encourage better animal welfare.   
   >>   
   >>    I have been encouraging appreciation for when it is successful, and you   
   have   
   >>been opposing appreciation for when it is successful, for over a decade   
   Goober.   
   >   
   >No.   
      
       That's exactly what has been going on Goo, and we both know it.   
      
   >You have been trying to coerce people into wanting livestock to exist.   
      
       I point out that decent AW provides millions of them with lives of positive   
   value for people who are able to appreciate when AW is successful Goob, and you   
   try to prevent people from appreciating when AW is successful.   
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   "Life "justifying" death is the stupidest goddamned thing   
   you ever wrote." - Goo   
      
   "NO livestock benefit from being farmed." - Goo   
      
   "No farm animals benefit from farming." - Goo   
      
   "There is nothing to "appreciate" about the livestock "getting   
   to experience life" - Goo   
      
   "Shut the fuck up about "consideration" for "their lives"" - Goo   
      
   "the "getting to experience life" deserves NO moral   
   consideration, and is given none; the deliberate killing   
   of animals for use by humans DOES deserve moral   
   consideration, and gets it." - Goo   
      
   ""giving them life" does NOT mitigate the wrongness of   
   their deaths" - Goo   
      
   "Causing animals to be born and "get to experience life"   
   (in Fuckwit's wretched prose) is no mitigation at all for   
   killing them." - Goo   
      
   "When considering your food choices ethically, assign   
   ZERO weight to the morally empty fact that choosing to   
   eat meat causes animals to be bred into existence." - Goo   
      
   "The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get to   
   experience life" deserves no consideration when asking   
   whether or not it is moral to kill them.  Zero." - Goo   
      
   "no matter how "decent" the conditions are, the deliberate killing   
   of the animals erases all of it." - Goo   
      
   "the moral harm caused by killing them is greater in magnitude   
   than ANY benefit they might derive from "decent lives" - Goo   
      
   "The opportunity for potential livestock to "get to   
   experience life" deserves *NO* moral consideration   
   whatever, and certainly cannot be used to justify the   
   breeding of livestock" - Goo   
      
   "The meaningless fact-lette that farm animals "get   
   to experience life" deserves no consideration when   
   asking whether or not it is moral to kill them.  Zero." - Goo   
      
   "It is completely UNIMPORTANT, morally, that "billions   
   of animals" at any point "get to experience life."   
   ZERO importance to it." - Goo   
      
   "There is no "selfishness" involved in wanting farm animals not to   
   exist as a step towards creating a more just world." - Goo   
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