XPost: alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian, uk.business.agriculture, alt.agriculture   
   XPost: rec.pets.cats.community   
      
   On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 14:50:32 -0700, "Dutch" wrote:   
      
   >> wrote   
   >   
   >>>>>>> You people refer to appreciating when AW is successful as the LoL,   
   >   
   >>>>That's NOT what it is.   
   >>>   
   >>> That IS exactly what it is   
   >   
   >"appreciating when AW is successful" means being glad when measures like   
   >larger pens or free range results in less suffering for animals   
      
    For those of us who are capable of it, which you are not, it means   
   appreciating less suffering AND lives of positive value among other things. For   
   people like you all it means is a delay in total elimination.   
      
   >(than the   
   >alternatives), that's not what The LoL means.   
   >   
   >AW is a provisional condition to the Logic of the Larder as stated by Salt,   
   >not the essence of it.   
      
    Having appreciation for when AW results in lives of positive value for   
   millions of animals is what you people refer to as the LoL.   
      
   >"If the animals live fairly decent lives" (conditional) then the LoL kicks   
   >in, and says that consumers of animal products may take satisfaction in the   
   >role they are playing in animals "getting to experience life".   
      
    Those of us who contribute can, those of you who do not can not.   
      
   >"being glad when measures like larger pens result in less suffering for   
   >animals" and "taking satisfaction in the role we play in animals "getting to   
   >experience life"" are completely distinct and separate ideas.   
   >   
   >Your attempts to collapse these two ideas into one are transparent and   
   >dishonest.   
      
    LOL!!! Insisting on promoting the idea that all livestock animals suffer   
   while refusing to appreciate when AW is successful is one of the ways you   
   reveal   
   yourself as an eliminationist. LOL! DUH!   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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