From: xyzzy.dude@gmail.com
wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 19:11:51 -0000 (UTC), xyzzy wrote:
>
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and
>>>>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big
>>>>> 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said
>>>>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.
>>>>
>>>> No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and
UCLA jumped.
>>>>
>>> Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all
>>> the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.
>>>
>>
>> Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas
>> and South Carolina to the SEC.
>>
>> And the first poaching of the modern era was the Big 8 destroying the SWC.
>> The PAC didnt poach anyone until 15 years after that.
>
> Schools changing conferences went back many decades, but it was the PAC
> that got the poaching ball rolling.
> As for the three you mentioned, Penn State was always independent,
> and South Carolina had left the ACC in 1971 and became independent.
> Arkansas and the 4 TX teams were
> looking for homes as the SWC was failing, largely instigated by the SMU
> death penalty. There was a ton of
> financial collateral damage from that and the league was going insolvent.
> The Big 8 did not poach 4 teams and
> destroy the SWC, the SWC was on it's way out and the Big 8 expanded to 12
> by accepting 4 teams looking for a haven.
>
> However, in the case of the PAC 10, they poached 2 teams, and tried to
> poach 4 more Big 12 teams (TX, OK, TT, OSU) to make
> a 16 team super conference, and was in dicussions with them. TX rejected
> it, so the others did also. Nevertheless,the concept of
> poaching for tv revenue was now on the table, and now we have the
> ridiculously large conferences with ridiculous members from a geographicly..
>
> And, as I said, I consider it ironic and karma that the PAC12 that is to
> blame for this is now having their premier teams poached and their dreams of
> being a super conference going down the drain. Too bad, since I grew up a
PAC 8 fan.
>
I can buy that interpretation. I was more thinking that the SEC got the
superconference ball rolling when they added Arkie and SC so they could do
divisions and a championship game. That started the scramble to get bigger
for TV money which is still ongoing and resulting in the absurd conference
alignments we are seeing today.
PSU to the B1G is in my list because it was a surprise move that had people
scratch their heads.
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