From: james.m.gibson@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated   
   American wrote:   
   > On 2023-07-27, xyzzy  wrote:    
   > > wrote:    
   > >> On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <   
   arkst...@gmail.com> wrote:    
   > >>    
   > >>> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:    
   > >>>    
   > >>>> Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and    
   > >>>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big    
   > >>>> 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said    
   > >>>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.    
   > >>>    
   > >>> No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and   
   UCLA jumped.    
   > >>>    
   > >> Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all    
   > >> the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.    
   > >>    
   > >    
   > > Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas    
   > > and South Carolina to the SEC.   
   > Penn St. was an independent, right?   
   > >    
      
   Independent in football; Atlantic Ten in everything else.   
      
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