From: Roddy.McCorley@verizon.net   
      
   On 7/31/2023 12:16 PM, JGibson wrote:   
   > On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 9:27:49 AM UTC-4, Con Reeder, unhyphenated   
   American wrote:   
   >> On 2023-07-27, xyzzy  wrote:   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:12:14 -0700 (PDT), Michael Falkner <   
   arkst...@gmail.com> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 8:48:42?PM UTC-7, Eric Ramon wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Kliavkoff has been a disaster but lots of people are being polite and   
   >>>>>> not saying so. Under his watch USC and UCLA has signed onto the Big   
   >>>>>> 10-12-14-16 and he's failed to get any media deal. That thing he said   
   >>>>>> "today is about football" was telling. There's nothing in sight.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> No, the Pac-12 is finished and the death knell was the moment USC and   
   UCLA jumped.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>> Kind of ironic and also karma since it was the PAC10 that started all   
   >>>> the poaching and huge conferences into high gear.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Was it though? IMO it all started with Penn State to the B1G and Arkansas   
   >>> and South Carolina to the SEC.   
   >> Penn St. was an independent, right?   
   >>>   
   >   
   > Independent in football; Atlantic Ten in everything else.   
   >   
      
   No, ACC in everything else.   
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