From: james.m.gibson@gmail.com   
      
   On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 3:27:57 PM UTC-4, Eric Ramon wrote:   
   > On Saturday, August 5, 2023 at 12:14:10 PM UTC-7, The NOTBCS Guy wrote:   
   > > > > Now, real chance (at least IMODO) that at least one of the remaining   
   four    
   > > > > schools drops it's athletic program completely.    
   > >    
   > > > There is zero chance that happens. They may drop to a lower level but   
   will    
   > > > not completely eliminate.    
   > > "Drop to a lower level?" He's not talking about just football; he's   
   talking about all sports. No way any of these schools ends up in Division II,   
   much less get rid of all of their sports, or change them all to "club level,"   
   whatever that means.    
   > > Cal and Stanford are far too entrenched in the "minor sports" to drop   
   them. Cut a few, maybe - back in 2010, Cal tried cutting its baseball, women's   
   lacrosse, and men's and women's gymnastics programs (all four of which   
   currently exist) - but    
   certainly not the one thing that still brings in money; men's basketball.    
   > >    
   > > There's a slim change Oregon State or Washington State could drop their   
   football program, and a slightly less slim chance one or more of the four   
   drops down to FCS and joins the Big West.    
   > >    
   > > Men's basketball...pardon me while I look something up...    
   > > Normally, when a school leaves a conference, any shares of the Basketball   
   TV money that it earned remain with the conference. However, according to the   
   NCAA Bylaws, once a multisport (as opposed to something like the CCHA)   
   conference drops below 7    
   schools, it has 2 years to get back to 7, or its remaining shares go to the   
   teams' new conferences.    
   > > Assuming none of these four teams gets into the NCAA tournament in the   
   next few years (and the last time any of them did was when Cal and Oregon   
   State got in in 2016, although I think Cal was one of the "first four out" in   
   2017), that's about $10.9    
   million in 2025 and $9.25 million in 2026.    
   > >    
   > > Also, the NCAA is probably sweating about whether Cal and Stanford can   
   keep up their mens' gymnastics programs, as there are already so few schools   
   that support it that any defections could mean the NCAA no longer conductiong   
   a championship for it.   
   > there is NO chance Oregon State drops football. Jonathan Smith has a   
   contract that runs until 2029. They have to pay him somehow and football is   
   the best way to raise that money. I think they end up in the Mountain West.   
   Additionally, with Oregon State,   
    the Beavers are a national power in baseball. If any school does drop sports   
   it won't be Oregon State   
      
   Oregon State, Cal, Stanford, and Washington State might not be brand-name   
   enough for the Big Ten, but they are still miles ahead of most of the Mountain   
   West.  I feel like the MWC would take any of those schools in a heartbeat.   
      
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