From: xyzzy.dude@gmail.com   
      
   JGibson  wrote:   
   > On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 2:27:54 PM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:   
   >> JGibson  wrote:   
   >>> Overall consensus not much different from AP or coaches' poll, so let's   
   >>> go right to the conferences.   
   >>>   
   >>> (from football.stassen.com)   
   >>>   
   >>> 1. Clemson   
   >>> 2. Florida State   
   >>> 3. North Carolina   
   >>> 4. Miami   
   >>> 5. Pitt   
   >>> 6. Duke   
   >>> 7. Louisville   
   >>> 8. N.C. State   
   >>> 9. Wake Forest   
   >>> 10. Syracuse   
   >>> 11. Virginia Tech   
   >>> 12. Boston College   
   >>> 13. Georgia Tech   
   >>> 14. Virginia   
   >>>   
   >> I know it’s a rebuilding year with a new coach, but #11 and behind Duke   
   and   
   >> Wake is a tough pill to swallow. At least I can take consolation that UVA   
   >> is last I guess.   
   >>   
   >   
   > There's a major article on espn.com right now about what happened at   
   > VaTech.  The thing that I don't quite get from that article - most of the   
   > blame seems to be aimed at Fuente, but when they discuss not recruiting   
   > at Michael Vick's high school, if I did my math right, that goes back to   
   > the last few years of Beamer.   
   >   
   >   
      
   I read the article this afternoon too, it wasn’t that well structured. But   
   the message I got about Fuente was that he was a victim of institutional   
   dysfunction and too many powerful people in the athletic department who   
   couldn’t or wouldn’t move on from Beamer. I don’t see that as blaming   
   Fuente.   
      
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