From: xyzzy.dude@gmail.com   
      
   Con Reeder, unhyphenated American  wrote:   
   > On 2023-08-22, xyzzy  wrote:   
   >>  wrote:   
   >>> On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:33:00 -0700 (PDT), The NOTBCS Guy   
   >>>  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> We need to stop considering electric vehicles as "woke." We are going to   
   >>>> run out of gas sooner rather than later.   
   >>>>   
   >>> What is the energy source to produce the electricity needed to charge an   
   electric car?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Even if it’s 100% coal they are still better for the environment than gas   
   >> cars because of the efficiency of grid power plants compared to ICE   
   >> engines.   
   >>   
   >   
   > This ignores multiple factors such as greater weight of vehicles, increased   
   > use of natural resources, cost of new infrastructure needed for widespread   
   > adoption, etc.   
   >   
      
   No, it doesn’t. There are multiple studies on this including by the Argonne   
   National Lab. Because of the factors you mentioned above, EVs start out in   
   the hole environmentally but are positive by about 20k miles of use in the   
   US depending on the car model and the local grid composition.   
      
   https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/when-do-el   
   ctric-vehicles-become-cleaner-than-gasoline-cars-2021-06-29/   
      
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