From: don.p.del.grande@gmail.com   
      
   > > And then what? Football life goes on as usual at Michigan.   
   > No, you basically shitcan the program and this stops.    
      
   By firing Harbaugh? Or is your definition of "football life goes on as usual"   
   include more scouting of opponents, which is the only thing that stops.   
      
   > > The problem is, there's no real way to punish the school without punishing   
   the "innocent athletes" involved. The one exception I can   
   > In this particular case, there are no innocent athletes. And at some point,   
   you have to start making these players responsible for the choices they DO   
   make.   
      
   They're not the ones that stole the signals. The ones that did are now gone.   
   Any postseason ban absolutely punishes somebody who went to the school with no   
   knowledge of what was going on. This is one of the reasons the NCAA is   
   starting to issue heavy    
   fines in place of bowl bans. It's similar to when it could issue TV bans; the   
   teams' opponents complained that they were receiving one-game TV bans as well.   
      
   > > think of off the top of my head is, if you allow players to transfer from   
   a school with a bowl ban and both (a) not have it count as their one free   
   transfer, and (b) let each school give one player from that team a scholarship   
   without it counting    
   against their limit of 85 (otherwise it becomes a case of pretty much every   
   school saying, "Sorry, but we can't take any of these players"), then a bowl   
   ban might work - it worked wonders at USC.   
   > Good. Make the kids responsible for the choices they make. If they want to   
   go to a program that's endangered, especially one known endangered, they've   
   made what amounts to a business decision today.   
      
   Actually, there already is a Bylaw that pretty much lets someone leave a   
   school serving a postseason ban without it counting as their free transfer, if   
   the ban covers the entire length of their remaining eligibility, but this   
   still leaves the problem of    
   other schools having room to take them in. (It is a holdover from when there   
   was no free transfer in football (or basketball, baseball, or men's ice   
   hockey).)   
      
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