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   The NOTBCS Guy to All   
   More of this bowl eligible nonsense...   
   22 Nov 23 07:27:40   
   
   From: don.p.del.grande@gmail.com   
      
   Now that I have found a site with accurate standings...   
   It could be a long night on Saturday in West Point. If I calculated this   
   correctly, then, if SMU beats Navy and exactly 13 of these 18 teams lose:   
   Ball State   
   BYU   
   California   
   Central Michigan   
   Colorado State   
   Florida   
   Illinois   
   Louisiana   
   Marshall   
   Michigan State   
   Nebraska   
   Northern Illinois   
   Old Dominion   
   South Florida   
   TCU   
   Utah State    
   Virginia Tech   
   Washington State   
   ...then Army-Navy is for a bowl game. I mention "late night" as Cal-UCLA   
   starts at 10:30 PM Eastern, and Colorado State-Hawaii starts at 11 PM.   
      
   Eastern Michigan won on Tuesday, so there are 14 spots remaining. Assuming two   
   of them go to James Madison and Jacksonville State, the eligibility order of   
   the potential 5-7 teams that can still get in (assuming nobody declines a bowl   
   bid - it has    
   happened before) is:   
   (* indicates a team with 4 counted wins - this includes Army, as it can't   
   count both of its FCS wins)   
   1. *Wake Forest   
   2. Minnesota     
   3. Rice     
   4. Mississippi State     
   5. Central Florida     
   6. South Carolina     
   7. *Michigan State   
   8. *Ball State   
   9. *Army   
   10. Florida     
   11. *Middle Tennessee State   
   12. Navy   
   13. Nebraska     
   14. Northern Illinois     
   15. Virginia Tech     
   16. South Florida     
   17. Utah State     
   These teams need to be 6-6 to get in, so they need to win:   
   BYU   
   California   
   Central Michigan   
   Colorado State   
   Illinois   
   Louisiana   
   Marshall   
   Old Dominion   
   Syracuse   
   TCU   
   Washington State   
      
   A couple of other notes:   
   1. A 5-7 Army with two FCS wins, and a 5-8 Hawaii, cannot go to a bowl game.   
   2. If it comes down to one of James Madison and Jacksonville State being   
   eligible and the other is not, there is nothing that prevents Jacksonville   
   State from being the team selected. Even though JMU has a higher APR, APR only   
   applies when ranking 5-win    
   teams.   
   3. There is nothing that says, "The standings immediately after the conference   
   championship games are played are used to determine bowl eligibility." In   
   other words,  the NCAA cannot say to Navy, "Yes, you beat Army and finished   
   6-6, and some 5-7 teams    
   were invited to bowl games, but all of the bowl bids were given out last   
   weekend."   
   The NCAA's nightmare scenario: if the last two teams in before Army-Navy are   
   James Madison and Jacksonville State; there is no provision for deciding which   
   one has to withdraw.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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