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   Michael Falkner to michael anderson   
   Re: So after all that, where are we?   
   26 Nov 23 09:10:17   
   
   From: darkstar7646@gmail.com   
      
   On Saturday, November 25, 2023 at 10:50:24 PM UTC-8, michael anderson wrote:   
      
   > no, you really couldn't.....    
   >    
   > FSU would be an undefeated conference champion and have wins over LSU,   
   Clemson, Louisville    
      
   None of which are that good.  Clemson's about 20 right now.  Louisville would   
   be there or worse.  The best win would be LSU, and that might not be much more   
   than Ohio State's over Penn State.   
      
   And the Committee has already partially invalidated the first two for Florida   
   State in the first place with the injury.   
      
   > tOSU would have a loss, wouldn't have won their division, and have wins over   
   Notre dame and penn state    
      
   Penn State would be at least the level of LSU, if not superior.  Notre Dame   
   would come down to MarKee ValYou, and, again, the Committee has already   
   diminished FSU's wins over LSU and Clemson to some extent.   
       
   > I don't believe FSU is any good and I would pick tOSU to win that matchup,   
   but the committee looks at things like resume, wins, conference championship   
   status, etc.....and doing so it's clear FSU is getting in if they beat Lville.    
      
   We have the argument every year.  If you pick Ohio State to win, since an   
   undefeated conference champion is not necessarily a guarantee of anything, you   
   vote for Ohio State at that point.  Will the Committee?   
      
   > Ohio State's path to the playoffs is very clear: they need both FSU and   
   Texas to lose next week. Those things happen and they are in. Texas just needs   
   FSU to lose.   
      
   I think there's a real problem.  FSU wins, it's three for one spot between   
   them, Texas, and Ohio State, even if two of them are conference champs.   
      
   Again, we have the argument every year.  If being a conference champ is that   
   important, then make it an absolute qualifier.  (Irrelevant once we go to the   
   12-team system.)   
      
   Mike   
      
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