From: mianderson79@gmail.com   
      
   On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 10:11:41 AM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:   
   > It's clear at this point that if the 4 undefeated P5 teams win, that's your   
   CFP. Easy enough. What if the defeated teams knock them off their perch?    
   >    
   > Oregon / Washington - with Washington ranked 3rd and Oregon ranked 5th, it   
   appears that the winner of this game should claim one slot in the CFP.   
   Oregon's only loss would then be by 3 on the road to a team that it then beat   
   at a neutral site and gave    
   its only loss to. I don't think a split should keep you out, so Oregon would   
   be treated almost like an undefeated team.    
   >    
   > Alabama / Georgia - This is where it could get really interesting. Auburn   
   could have solved this problem by playing defense on Alabama last week. But   
   here we are. Alabama wins here, and HTH suggests Alabama would be ranked above   
   Georgia (both have one    
   loss with HTH as tiebreaker, which the committee seems to be keen on for teams   
   with the same record). If Texas also wins, does that dictate Texas > Alabama >   
   Georgia? No matter what you say about Alabama improving and maybe being better   
   than Texas now,    
   the fact is Texas went to Alabama and won by double digits, and that game has   
   to count    
      
   So in general I do respect hth, but it's not a firm rule.  It depends on the   
   situation.   
      
   In this case you have a situation where Alabama wouldn't have just a 'big'   
   win.  They wouldn't even have a 'humongous' win.  They will have a neutral   
   site win in the sec championship game over the #1 team in the country now.  A   
   team that has won 29    
   straight games.  29.  A team that has won the last two national titles.    
   That's not even a season defining win.....that's basically a decade defining   
   win.    
      
   So at some point, a win becomes so big as to even overcome hth.  Now I know   
   georgia isn't as good(especially on defense) as they were    
   2 years ago or even last year. They have looked vulnerable at times this   
   year.  But still.....they are a team currently ranked #1 and going for their   
   3rd straight national title and 30th straight win.     
      
   So I think what we do in this situations is talk about and try to predict how   
   things will fall after a win like that, but we don't get the whole perspective   
   because it hasn't actually happened.  So if it were to happen(and everyone   
   were to watch such a    
   historic win), a lot of people saying you can't rank Bama above Texas may   
   change their mind once it actually happens.  because once it happens it   
   typically has a different feel.   
      
   Now that said, another complicating factor here is that Alabama(just like   
   Texas) has had a few shaky performances this second half of the year too.    
   They blew chunks in the arkansas game, and rivalry game against auburn or not   
   that was not a playoff    
   looking team.    
      
   So this narrative(if Alabama beats Georgia) that Alabama has come on super   
   strong over the second half and are some juggernaught that doesn't resemble   
   how they were earlier in the year is one I don't completely buy.  If that were   
   actually the case(and    
   Jalen Milroe was actually good and Bama had blown out Arky and Auburn) I   
   wouldn't have any issue definately and easily placing Bama over Texas(and   
   oregon) with a Georgia win.     
      
   So I don't really know what I would do....or what should happen.  I don't   
   think Alabama is very good, and I think georgia is about to    
   beat them down tommorrow(I have georgia ML and in parlays and ATS).  But my   
   overall point is that when you start introducing wins of this magnitude in the   
   equation, those wins are sooooo massive that they may change the game and   
   break down rigid rules in    
   our head like hth......   
      
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