From: constance@duxmail.com   
      
   On 2023-12-05, JGibson  wrote:   
   > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 9:33:35 PM UTC-5, unclejr wrote:   
   >> On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 6:59:01 AM UTC-6, JGibson wrote:   
   >> > On Monday, December 4, 2023 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-5, RoddyMcCorley wrote:   
   >> > > They got hosed by the committee. Absolutely no justification unless it   
   >> > > is "we must have an SEC team." And even that does not work.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > The CFP cmte has too much subjective leeway to begin with.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Go back to a fairly objective formula like the BCS had.   
   >> > I did go and try to find the six computers that the BCS used. Sagarin no   
   longer has his "score-free" formula available, but I think the others have   
   their equivalents still. I know Don does his NOTBCS rankings, which I think   
   use more computers.   
   >> >   
   >> > I find the following:   
   >> > Colley: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Texas, 4. Alabama, 5. Florida State   
   >> > Billingsley: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Florida State, 4. Alabama, 5.   
   Georgia   
   >> > Massey BCS: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Alabama. 4. Texas, 5. Florida   
   State   
   >> > Anderson & Hester: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Florida State, 4. Ohio   
   State, 5. Alabama   
   >> > Wolfe: 1. Washington, 2. Michigan, 3. Florida State, 4. Alabama, 5. Texas   
   >> > Sagarin*: 1. Michigan, 2. Oregon, 3. Ohio State, 4. Texas, 5. Penn State   
   >> Sagarin is borked. ($1)   
   >   
   > Yeah, that's why that version got banned in the BCS days, and they   
   > made him use a score-free version. But the version he had to use in   
   > those days no longer seems to exist.   
      
   Sagarin appears to have given up the biz, as he has yet to release basketball   
   ratings this year.   
      
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